KONI inserts -- HELP!!
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Hello all,
I just ordered some new adjustable KONI struts for the front of my 951. Through a combination of misunderstanding and several other factors I ended up with some KONI inserts instead of the full front strut. My question is whether I cut up my old KONI front struts and install the inserts? Do KONI inserts work on KONI struts basically, lol. Below is some more information:
The information I have on the original KONI front struts:
1. They're yellow!!!
2. The stamped letters on the body read as follows:
Adjustable
Made By: KONI-HOLLAND
50-85 V5
KN2 951-343-032-02
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Newly (accidently) Purchased KONI Inserts:
koni PN: 8641 1414SPORT
What are the general opinions on the inserts? They seem nice, they're easily adjustable. Since my old struts are pretty badly worn and I have an Auto-X I'd like to attend coming up I would love to use these if they'll fit. If the inserts are garbage I'd like to know that too. :/
BTW, I don't know if anyone remembers me posting all kinds of offset requests a few weeks ago. I just got the spacers and the C4 ZR1 wheels with tires mounted. Everything fit awesome. I'll post up my spacer specs, wheels specs and pictures in a couple of days!
I just ordered some new adjustable KONI struts for the front of my 951. Through a combination of misunderstanding and several other factors I ended up with some KONI inserts instead of the full front strut. My question is whether I cut up my old KONI front struts and install the inserts? Do KONI inserts work on KONI struts basically, lol. Below is some more information:
The information I have on the original KONI front struts:
1. They're yellow!!!
2. The stamped letters on the body read as follows:
Adjustable
Made By: KONI-HOLLAND
50-85 V5
KN2 951-343-032-02
![](https://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac32/luke714/Porsche%20Project/DSC02359.jpg)
![](https://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac32/luke714/Porsche%20Project/DSC01844.jpg)
Newly (accidently) Purchased KONI Inserts:
koni PN: 8641 1414SPORT
What are the general opinions on the inserts? They seem nice, they're easily adjustable. Since my old struts are pretty badly worn and I have an Auto-X I'd like to attend coming up I would love to use these if they'll fit. If the inserts are garbage I'd like to know that too. :/
BTW, I don't know if anyone remembers me posting all kinds of offset requests a few weeks ago. I just got the spacers and the C4 ZR1 wheels with tires mounted. Everything fit awesome. I'll post up my spacer specs, wheels specs and pictures in a couple of days!
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Yea. There is plenty of instructions.
Its called the Koni Hacksaw mod. Just search the site; lots of us have done it. In fact my inserts came with instructions.
Basically cut the strut to the proper length and drill a hole in the bottom.
Its called the Koni Hacksaw mod. Just search the site; lots of us have done it. In fact my inserts came with instructions.
Basically cut the strut to the proper length and drill a hole in the bottom.
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yeah, I've seen the instructions. I just wasn't sure if the inserts would fit the current struts I have, or are the inserts pretty much one size fits all? Thanks for the re-assurance, if I cut the struts I have and the inserts don't fit I'm definitely not going to the auto-x and that would s&*(.
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i have a set of turbo koni front struts w/ the spring perches cut off for coilovers that im pulling the inserts from so i can reinstall them in n/a struts. If you are using coilovers you could bolt these right on.
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what are the pictures of? The first one looks like a new strut and spring and the second looks like old. Are the descriptions reversed?
The top picture looks like a complete strut just missing the strut top mount.
The top picture looks like a complete strut just missing the strut top mount.
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Those are the correct part numbers. Those KONI inserts will work in your KONI struts. As far as I know the inserts are as good as the original struts they repair.
I have the M474 option on my N/A so I run the same struts. I recently did the conversion and was happy with the results. The ride isn't super composed (is any 944's?), but it is tight and sporty. I just wish I had tighter springs to go along with the sport dampers, I've heard they work better that way. That being said, they are easily adjustable - just pop the hood and turn a **** on the top of the strut.
Unless you're going for a full coilover (KW or the like) setup they will do nicely.
I have the M474 option on my N/A so I run the same struts. I recently did the conversion and was happy with the results. The ride isn't super composed (is any 944's?), but it is tight and sporty. I just wish I had tighter springs to go along with the sport dampers, I've heard they work better that way. That being said, they are easily adjustable - just pop the hood and turn a **** on the top of the strut.
Unless you're going for a full coilover (KW or the like) setup they will do nicely.
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The hacksaw job is quite easy. I did both of mine, excluding paintwork, in about 20 minutes each.
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Hey, thanks for the replies.
Sorry about the confusion. My original post is a little confusing. The two pictures are of the original struts, I had just added a ground control coilover conversion in one of the pictures. The damper is the same in both shots except I had cut off the spring perch. What I want to do is take the Koni damper inserts and put them into the shown koni struts. I had originally intended to order new complete struts like what I have on the car now, but ended up with inserts instead. I just wanted to make sure that the koni inserts will work in the koni struts. By the sounds of it they will!
Cheers,
Luke
Sorry about the confusion. My original post is a little confusing. The two pictures are of the original struts, I had just added a ground control coilover conversion in one of the pictures. The damper is the same in both shots except I had cut off the spring perch. What I want to do is take the Koni damper inserts and put them into the shown koni struts. I had originally intended to order new complete struts like what I have on the car now, but ended up with inserts instead. I just wanted to make sure that the koni inserts will work in the koni struts. By the sounds of it they will!
Cheers,
Luke
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I know this is a little O.T. but after looking at the Paragon site the Koni Sport front shocks and the Sport Inserts are the same price. What's the advantage of doing the conversion?
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I think that they're both inserts. I just talked to Paragon Products and they said that Koni doesn't make the complete sport strut anymore. BTW, I did the conversion and it worked great! Thanks guys!
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The Koni 8641-1414Sport inserts will work in both the orig Boge/Sachs housings or Koni housings. There was some confusion with Koni at one point where they said the inserts didn't work on the Koni housing but I can assure you they do.
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I can second this by saying the inserts have been working in my OEM M474 strut housings for at least 30K miles or so...