What part is 944.424.013.02 (Trying to fix sloppy shifter...uploaded some vids)
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What part is 944.424.013.02 (Trying to fix sloppy shifter...uploaded some vids)
I need to know what part 944.424.013.02 is...
Which number is it? (I think it's #29 or #27)
Thanks,
Jeff
Which number is it? (I think it's #29 or #27)
Thanks,
Jeff
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The center piece-white in color if you look at yours, is the intermediate shift lever.
Clarks has it in the very last photo ....
http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/trans-07.htm
You can take it off and "shim" it if you feel it is sloppy on both holes. A simple shim is an old 1" metal busted tape measure. Cut a short length 1" or so of the metal tape that fits the length of the hole and insert it in the hole along with your metal shift rod.
This simple "shimming" will let you find out if in fact it is the "intermediate shift lever" or another problem that needs work or replacement.
The white part is NLA but there have been some fabricated from aluminum on ebay I was told.
GL
John
Clarks has it in the very last photo ....
http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/trans-07.htm
You can take it off and "shim" it if you feel it is sloppy on both holes. A simple shim is an old 1" metal busted tape measure. Cut a short length 1" or so of the metal tape that fits the length of the hole and insert it in the hole along with your metal shift rod.
This simple "shimming" will let you find out if in fact it is the "intermediate shift lever" or another problem that needs work or replacement.
The white part is NLA but there have been some fabricated from aluminum on ebay I was told.
GL
John
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I would make sure that shift level mechanism (on the trans) is properly bolted to the shift rod. It has this bolt with a wire around it. Torque that down to the specified rating (20 ft/lbs?).
Mine was really sloppy and this tightened it up nicely.
Mine was really sloppy and this tightened it up nicely.
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I went under and checked out my linkages... as per this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-...ld-be-why.html
I checked the 10mm bolt that "comes loose" Mine was very tight.
I took some video of the side to side movement from the shifter and from the linkage angles... tell me what you think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DB9YRfWbAs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98w6EmXjt1Q
https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-...ld-be-why.html
I checked the 10mm bolt that "comes loose" Mine was very tight.
I took some video of the side to side movement from the shifter and from the linkage angles... tell me what you think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DB9YRfWbAs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98w6EmXjt1Q
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When you replaced the shift lever up front was the pin football shaped? If it was then the shift rod is probably hour-glassed inside and needs to be bushed by one of several methods you can find here with a search. I prefer the Dieters method Dieters Shifter Fix and have done 3 of them. Your first vid looks like way too much side-to-side movement to be the just rear linkage only but I'm wrong all the time
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Yes, it could be the shift rod itself.
If the shift lever was seriously "hour glass" shaped it could have worn/deformed the hole in the shift rod.
There is a fix I have used on the hole in the shift rod.
I went to the local "Hobby Lobby" and got the exact pipe.
http://www.frwilk.com/the944/shifter.htm
Before you do this, get a caliper and measure the hole in the shift rod at each side to determine if one is larger than the other. There is no going back once you drill the shift rod.
Next,
I viewed your videos.
I have a new shift lever on the '87 with 117K miles----and I did the above repair on the shift rod.
I took a caliper and held it in place to measure the "side to side" play.
Clutch pedal not touched/depressed.
In neutral the "side to side" play is ~6"
Shift lever moved forward, side to side play is 4"
Shift lever moved rear, side to side play is 4"
I next measured the "side to side" play on my '88 with 63K miles.
New shift lever, shift rod is original-not touched
In neutral the "side to side" play is ~5.5"
Shift lever moved forward, the side to side play is ~3.5"
Shift lever moved rear, side to side play is ~3.5"
The '88 has tight and firm shift lever feel---like brand new.
Maybe this helps.
John
If the shift lever was seriously "hour glass" shaped it could have worn/deformed the hole in the shift rod.
There is a fix I have used on the hole in the shift rod.
I went to the local "Hobby Lobby" and got the exact pipe.
http://www.frwilk.com/the944/shifter.htm
Before you do this, get a caliper and measure the hole in the shift rod at each side to determine if one is larger than the other. There is no going back once you drill the shift rod.
Next,
I viewed your videos.
I have a new shift lever on the '87 with 117K miles----and I did the above repair on the shift rod.
I took a caliper and held it in place to measure the "side to side" play.
Clutch pedal not touched/depressed.
In neutral the "side to side" play is ~6"
Shift lever moved forward, side to side play is 4"
Shift lever moved rear, side to side play is 4"
I next measured the "side to side" play on my '88 with 63K miles.
New shift lever, shift rod is original-not touched
In neutral the "side to side" play is ~5.5"
Shift lever moved forward, the side to side play is ~3.5"
Shift lever moved rear, side to side play is ~3.5"
The '88 has tight and firm shift lever feel---like brand new.
Maybe this helps.
John
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i've got a pic of my old shift lever before i changed it, but unfortunately it's on my work computer.. but yes it was VERY bad... i can see that being the problem now that you guys have pointed that out. I'll take a look tomorrow.
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I havent had a chance to work on the shifter yet (been working on other small things with the car) but i found that "before" pic of my shift lever:
pretty bad... I noticed a difference when i put a new lever in, but obviously it still wasnt perfect.
I think i'm going to try the 924 shift lever bushing route
pretty bad... I noticed a difference when i put a new lever in, but obviously it still wasnt perfect.
I think i'm going to try the 924 shift lever bushing route
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There is no part number 944-424-013-02 in this diagram ,but there is 944-424-013-00 number 18 which is your intermediate shaft lever.And number 29 is 944-424-141-00 which is the articulated arm.
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Have someone hold the shifter tube with vice grips at the trans, while you move the lever. That will tell you for sure if it's in the lever or at the trans end. (It may be some of each)
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I havent had a chance to work on the shifter yet (been working on other small things with the car) but i found that "before" pic of my shift lever:
pretty bad... I noticed a difference when i put a new lever in, but obviously it still wasnt perfect.
I think i'm going to try the 924 shift lever bushing route
pretty bad... I noticed a difference when i put a new lever in, but obviously it still wasnt perfect.
I think i'm going to try the 924 shift lever bushing route
You can try a "shim" in the shift rod to see if the "bushing route" will help.
Again, a broken 1" metal tape measure piece cut to length.
Have you checked the white plastic cup at the bottom of the shift lever to see if it is cracked or worn?
GL
John