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Old 03-10-2011, 07:51 AM
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Default kevlar timing belt noise?

i had replaced my timing belt and all pulleys a year ago. ever since then it has been making a "whining" noise. reminds me of a supercharger noise. i have checked tension on the belts, the pulleys and anything else i could think of. do any of you have any clue what i can do to fix this?

i am beginning to think the noise could be because its a Kevlar belt? does anyone else have this issue?
Old 03-10-2011, 08:05 AM
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It's the balance shaft belt.. they're just noisy even when tensioned properly. I had the same issue, asked around and this is pretty much normal.

You can get rid of most of the whine by lowering the tension a little bit.
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i have lowered it(from proper tension) and it did go down a bit but it seems way too loose so i dont want to loosen it anymore... i was thinking it may be the plastic tention pulleys that came in the kit? do they make metal ones?
Old 03-10-2011, 08:11 AM
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they usually whine some but usually the plastic pulleys are not the problem. It has to be pretty loose feeling to not whine-almost too loose. I usually just set it and it goes away after awhile when the belt stretches. The stock pulleys were metal...
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well, i figured it would strech a little so left it. it has been a year since i did it and it still does it. i will loosen it a bit more tonight and see what it does. thanks guys!! i am just hoping its not the timing belt because i would rather not loosen that....
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Yea I had the same issue for weeks after I did mine... I kept reading/hearing from people that "driving the car would stretch the belt and it would go away..." I was driving more than 100miles a day at that time, and eventually I couldn't handle being at stop lights making a loud whining noise anymore...

With the car running I loosened the balance belt until the whining stopped. And yes it is like Floppy Loose, but no more whining!! It has been like that for at least a year now.

I would not mess with the timing belt, as long as it is properly tensioned...

Also check your Alt and P/S Belts -it might just be these... But I will put my money on Balance Belt like everyone else.
Old 03-10-2011, 11:38 AM
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I have the Kevlar belt w/ new BS belt and experienced the same thing. It's been 4k miles and nearly a year, there is still some whine. Not really objectionable, and of course it keeps the ricers wondering what's really under the hood. I have the BS belt as loose as I dare, tried running it tighter too, no change. This is on all new tensioners and idlers, as well as WP. It could well be the Kevlar, it is significantly stiffer.
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944Ross: i did the same as you, new everything, and still making noise.

i will loosen the BS belt a bit tonight and see.

the PS and ALT belt are old but its not those. it is a different noise anyway....

thanks guys
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The Kevlar Belt makes a noise like a supercharger. Really not that much you can do about it. I would not loosen the Balance Belt as the proper tension on it is only 28 ft lbs. You do not want it flopping around too much.

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Same thing, Kevlar belt.

But I think it’s the BS belt, I loosened it up to the point you could roll it 180deg with your fingers and the noise remains.

So I just stopped worrying about it.
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Whining worries me. I had a roller give out after a timing belt R&R. I believe it was overtensioned and caused the bearing to fail. It was whining right up to the point it broke.
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If you losen the balance shaft belt too much, while it specifically is not as crucial as the timing belt, it could fail which could throw the timing belt.
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Had my belts retensioned by a mechanic shortly after I bought the car. Hadn't whined before the retension, but noticeably after. Replaced timing belt tensioner roller a little later and retensioned both belts again myself using the Arnnworx tools. Did both belts several times to make sure I could duplicate the "settings". Whining still there.

Oh well... I attribute it to "Porsche-ness".
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Well I will just have to deal with it then..... It just gets on my nerves....
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Mine doesn't whine at idle but it does a bit when I accelerate. My covers are off too so I'm sure that doesn't help w/ sound deadening.


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