RB26 or 2JZ in a 944? Good or Bad?
06-17-2012, 10:00 PM
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The stock and light modded configurations react great with the 944 gearbox. I do feel if the complete potential of the rb26dett is unleashed which has proven time and time again to be in the ranks of the supercar engine group. That trans will have to have a upgrade for the gear box.
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06-17-2012, 10:15 PM
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Any motor swap is difficult, the LS is easier now because its been done an documented so many times. However the initial cost of the LS is almost $3000 more than an RB. Take into account the aftermarket following of the RBs, there are plenty of proven parts for an RB that in the right configuration will allow it to compete with and even in most instances beat the well built small blocks. I would say that with a readily available swap kit, its opening a new door for 944 enthusiasts everywhere.
06-17-2012, 10:22 PM
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Any motor swap is difficult, the LS is easier now because its been done an documented so many times. However the initial cost of the LS is almost $3000 more than an RB. Take into account the aftermarket following of the RBs, there are plenty of proven parts for an RB that in the right configuration will allow it to compete with and even in most instances beat the well built small blocks. I would say that with a readily available swap kit, its opening a new door for 944 enthusiasts everywhere.
06-17-2012, 10:23 PM
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What does the RB look like bolted all the way in? I'd imagine a hood scoop would be required unless you drop the crossmember quite a ways. Then you start dealing with bump steer problems.
06-17-2012, 10:25 PM
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Look on ebay. The import is taken care of and all that needs to be done is purchasing and shipping like any other engine. A quick google search will bring up importers nationwide.
06-17-2012, 10:28 PM
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as far as locating a engine, MOOGICUS researched and found many available from craigslist to ebay and even google and amazon.
Thank you, Moogicus
Thank you, Moogicus
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06-17-2012, 11:25 PM
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Actually the rb and sr swap kits will enable the use of power steering.
are currently plumbing for a/c. expect that with the a/c kit it will allow car to retain Factory controlled a/c.
And as for the gas mileage question. The rb is like any other engine it uses what it needs to do its job level.
but yes gas mileage is great....... then you have all the power and redline you could ever need when its time to put the pedal down.
are currently plumbing for a/c. expect that with the a/c kit it will allow car to retain Factory controlled a/c.
And as for the gas mileage question. The rb is like any other engine it uses what it needs to do its job level.
but yes gas mileage is great....... then you have all the power and redline you could ever need when its time to put the pedal down.
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06-18-2012, 05:06 PM
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I have looked at the dry weights. The ls1 is a amazing swap, the weight of the motor is outstanding for the v8 platforms. However the Rb swap weight is very close to the ls1 and depending on your options can be much lighter. The one we had running still handled amazing and for the most part the ppl who will feel the difference in handling between the two engines, are seasoned and more than likely have already upgraded from the factory suspension..
this is what I have found so far in the few minutes of double checking my knowledge.
source is from http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...t4-weight.html
For the 1996 LT1 and 1996 LT4:
LT1 Mass: 785.3 lbs (356.2 kg)
LT4 Mass: 1003.5 lbs (455.2 kg)
For the 2001 LS1 and 2001 LS6:
LS1 Total Dressed Engine Weight: Auto. - 457.6 lbs. (208 kg); Manual - 497.2 lbs (226 kg)
LS6 Total Dressed Engine Weight: (Manual only) - 497.2 lbs (226 kg)
as for the Rb this should suffice.
http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php/topic/90437-actual-rb26dett-parts-weights/
So in total a dry RB26DETT without accessories or an oil pan should weigh about 378 lbs.. So with everything put back together and the oil pan I think around 400 lbs. should be about right for the engine. I know there was another thread for engine weights but I figured since we did the parts individually I would make a new thread. Hope this helps.
Now if you would like More figures there are thousands of links in the engine dry/wet weight that average in this range.
this is what I have found so far in the few minutes of double checking my knowledge.
source is from http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...t4-weight.html
For the 1996 LT1 and 1996 LT4:
LT1 Mass: 785.3 lbs (356.2 kg)
LT4 Mass: 1003.5 lbs (455.2 kg)
For the 2001 LS1 and 2001 LS6:
LS1 Total Dressed Engine Weight: Auto. - 457.6 lbs. (208 kg); Manual - 497.2 lbs (226 kg)
LS6 Total Dressed Engine Weight: (Manual only) - 497.2 lbs (226 kg)
as for the Rb this should suffice.
http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php/topic/90437-actual-rb26dett-parts-weights/
So in total a dry RB26DETT without accessories or an oil pan should weigh about 378 lbs.. So with everything put back together and the oil pan I think around 400 lbs. should be about right for the engine. I know there was another thread for engine weights but I figured since we did the parts individually I would make a new thread. Hope this helps.
Now if you would like More figures there are thousands of links in the engine dry/wet weight that average in this range.
06-18-2012, 05:14 PM
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the weights of the lt were located on the internet....
i saw the 1000 and said the same thing about the lt.
just my opinion The Lt1 is more like 500-550lbs
the comparison is with the LS tho not the LT.
Of the rb series blocks the 26 is the heaviest, and in weight comparison it sits below the LS.
This is a argument I constantly have with 240 kids when comparing swaps for their cars.
I have put a few ls1 in to the 240sx chassis. i do not knock these motors they have great benefits.
I put more rb powered cars together than any other engine. Once the customer has a chance to feel the power, rpm band, and torque curve, not to mention sexy sound. they fall in love.
I had a guy pull a ls1 out of his 1994 s14 240sx to put a rb26 in it. I took him for a ride my personal car and he could not get enough... he had to have one. Have never heard a complaint on the car from him sense.
i saw the 1000 and said the same thing about the lt.
just my opinion The Lt1 is more like 500-550lbs
the comparison is with the LS tho not the LT.
Of the rb series blocks the 26 is the heaviest, and in weight comparison it sits below the LS.
This is a argument I constantly have with 240 kids when comparing swaps for their cars.
I have put a few ls1 in to the 240sx chassis. i do not knock these motors they have great benefits.
I put more rb powered cars together than any other engine. Once the customer has a chance to feel the power, rpm band, and torque curve, not to mention sexy sound. they fall in love.
I had a guy pull a ls1 out of his 1994 s14 240sx to put a rb26 in it. I took him for a ride my personal car and he could not get enough... he had to have one. Have never heard a complaint on the car from him sense.
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06-18-2012, 05:44 PM
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As for EMPmotorsport, this looks like a nice setup. Any chance of having it fit under a stock hood?