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Old 10-25-2002 | 08:02 PM
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Flood, I love the looks of the TL with the Gixxer tail section <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
Old 10-25-2002 | 08:25 PM
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check it out.... "vanilla rice"!!! <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />


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Old 10-25-2002 | 10:58 PM
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Once you've had to stand in the middle of an emergency room with nurses pouring bottles of peroxide over large areas of road rash, you gain a new respect for leathers. Pain is an excellent teacher.
Old 10-25-2002 | 11:59 PM
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What was left of my VFR after packing in at 50 MPH - on my way down the mountain to see my wife's ultrasound. Completly my fault, too much front brake and the bike (not me) slid under a van comming the other way, leather wouldn't have helped if I did.

I dont ride anymore, freaked me out good.
Old 10-26-2002 | 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by Tabor Kelly:
[quote] Life is always fatal eventually. This guy views the risks as worth the reward. <hr></blockquote>

True, you never know... but why rush it?

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[quote] The Dark Prince is now dead.<hr></blockquote>

hope it was worth it.
Old 10-26-2002 | 12:27 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Peckster:
<strong>Once you've had to stand in the middle of an emergency room with nurses pouring bottles of peroxide over large areas of road rash, you gain a new respect for leathers. Pain is an excellent teacher.</strong><hr></blockquote>


LOL, the 'tough guy' squid doesn't go to the hospital.. he gets together with all his friends, a few 5ths of whatever liquor is available and proceeds to have a drunken scrub-down (in a slightly homo-erotic fashion).... then gets to wake up for the next week or two and call friends to come help peel the sheets from his body as the secretions have hardened durring sleep...

I always hated being that willing friend with the drugs (left-over Legal Percosets) and willingness to inflict pain while removing stuck clothes/sheets.

Kelsan - as for why push the limits/accelerate the pace of life... well, one simple quote: "Every man dies, but not every man truely lives" Those who are seen as 'accelerating' their chances are merly living life on their terms with the risk assesments they've chosen - thank God some people choose extreme limits as life would be to borring without those interesting characters.

Leathers help sometimes, but it's the massive padding that makes the real difference. Oh, well - that and a brain between the ears that knows when to turn it up (not on public streets) and the most important 'upgrade' (the rider). Maybe I'm a little biased though........
Old 10-26-2002 | 10:28 AM
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kelsean,

Everyone increases their chances of dieing in one way or another. The difference is that these guys turn it up a little more than most people. Who am I to judge? I take more chances than some people, less than others.
Old 10-26-2002 | 11:48 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Brian McCoy:
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Leathers help sometimes, but it's the massive padding that makes the real difference. Oh, well - that and a brain between the ears that knows when to turn it up (not on public streets) and the most important 'upgrade' (the rider). Maybe I'm a little biased though........</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well said. I never ride without gear, it make the difference. I know I am a walking example.


Jax951: send me a PM. We should hook up and bull**** about Porsches and bikes sometime.
Old 10-26-2002 | 11:04 PM
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I totalled a bike when I was 18. I was lucky. I couldn't ride anymore after that... I tried, bought another bike, but couldn't 'meld' with the bike after that. Too dangerous to ride if you can't relax with it.

Human beings are designed to handle about a 5 mph impact (a slow jog). Anything faster, and your body is a watermelon waiting to goosh on a sidewalk. We evolved to walk and run; anatomical structural integrity systems fail at speeds above that spec.

Tabor, making judgments is what distinguishes us from dirt and stones. It's called awareness. If there isn't a perciever making value judgments about good and bad, right and wrong, the Universe is all just molecules colliding. I live in a Universe where there's good actions and bad, right and wrong. My job is to distinguish between them. So's yours. You ask: "Who am I to judge?" It's the essence of your being. Don't be flaccid.

When a young person dies for no good reason, it's tragic. If somebody dies because they're addicted to an adrenaline rush, it's a sad waste.

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Old 10-26-2002 | 11:12 PM
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Thaddeus, very nicely stated.
Old 10-27-2002 | 11:52 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Thaddeus:
<strong>Tabor, making judgments is what distinguishes us from dirt and stones. It's called awareness. If there isn't a perciever making value judgments about good and bad, right and wrong, the Universe is all just molecules colliding. I live in a Universe where there's good actions and bad, right and wrong. My job is to distinguish between them. So's yours. You ask: "Who am I to judge?" It's the essence of your being. Don't be flaccid.</strong><hr></blockquote>

My mother thinks Porsche ownership is evil (cost, speed, etc). Obviously we should all sell our cars and buy Toyota Camary's. I will stay flaccid in this area thank you. So, where should we draw the line? Porsche, Ferrari, Bullet Bike? The speed limit, 5 over, 10 over, 100 over? Doing wheelies in Jeanes, in leathers? On the track, on the street?

I judge lots of stuff, but this area I will stay out of.
Old 10-27-2002 | 08:54 PM
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You're missing the point...

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Old 10-27-2002 | 11:07 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Thaddeus:
<strong>You're missing the point...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Please explain how you can judge that doing wheelies in motorcycles is "too dangerous" but driving your 951 fast isn't. Who appointed you as chief risk decider?
Old 10-28-2002 | 07:13 AM
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Tabor, if I cared to, I could go through your replies and deconstruct them point by point. There's one or two logical fallacies in every line, or a rhetorical device that distorts the substance. But I won't.

I never asserted I was 'chief' anything.

I asserted it is a core component of human awareness to make judgments about all sorts of things. You also need to be able to change your mind and admit error about your judgments once in awhile.

Sigh.
Old 10-28-2002 | 08:02 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Thaddeus:
<strong>I asserted it is a core component of human awareness to make judgments about all sorts of things. You also need to be able to change your mind and admit error about your judgments once in awhile.</strong><hr></blockquote>


I understand this. However, what I do not understand is the arbitrary difference between doing wheelies on a bike and driving a 951 fast. I am not even sure that one is more dangerous than the other. I am sure it would be more dangerous for me to do wheelies on bikes than to drive a 944/951 fast, but for an experienced rider, the statements could probably be reversed.

So, I don't see your point. Maybe I am just too sympathetic to those willing to take risk.

PS: I am not talking about judging murders, rapists, etc. If you notice our society has decided that those people should be judged by a panel of people (this example including Congress), not some guy on a web board. Also note that doing wheelies is still legal, thought it may be restricted in certain locations (public roads).



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