DOT-5 or DOT-3/4?
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DOT-5 or DOT-3/4?
I am planning to flush my systems with fresh fluid this weekend. But I was going thru the maintenance records that came with the car, and I find an entry at 17k miles, "Replaced brake and clutch fluids with DOT-5". Well hell, I have no idea if over the 20+ years since the original buyer had that done, the second owner (who was mechanically a moron) added to or changed the fluids with DOT-5, or has contaminated it with DOT-3 or 4. Whateveer is in there is pretty dark now.
If I'm doing a flush (with fresh fluid only), which would you use?
If I'm doing a flush (with fresh fluid only), which would you use?
#2
I'd use DOT4.
Everything you have ever wanted to know about brake fluid: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...fluid_1a.shtml
Everything you have ever wanted to know about brake fluid: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...fluid_1a.shtml
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That really had no guidance on the effects of cross-contamination (that I could see). I found some sites that claim no issues with switching between the two as long as non-synthetic fluids are used. I'm thinking I'll go with DOT3, because I plan to flush regularly, and I live in a very dry climate.
#4
no DOT 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! use only DOT 5.1 (if using anything other that 3 or 4)
http://www.braketech.com/index.php?o...:faq&Itemid=79
http://www.braketech.com/index.php?o...:faq&Itemid=79
Last edited by running_cold924; 11-22-2010 at 11:16 PM.
#5
FYI - DOT 4 cost about the same as DOT 3 and is probably just as easy to find. ATE Blue, ATE 200 are super cost effective DOT 4. Castrol LMA is also good.
If the previous owner(s) used DOT 5 which is silicone based, you'll want to flush the system really well or better yet disassemble everything, flush with spray brake cleaner, reassemble and then install DOT 4. DOT 5 silicone fluid should only be used for museum cars. DOT 5.1 which is NOT silcone based can be mixed with most DOT 3/4 fluids. Always confirm before mixing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_fluid
If the previous owner(s) used DOT 5 which is silicone based, you'll want to flush the system really well or better yet disassemble everything, flush with spray brake cleaner, reassemble and then install DOT 4. DOT 5 silicone fluid should only be used for museum cars. DOT 5.1 which is NOT silcone based can be mixed with most DOT 3/4 fluids. Always confirm before mixing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_fluid
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Found some more threads on other sites and now believe I need to stay DOT5 <<if>> that is what is in there. I'm going to drain a little and try some tests to verify.
Just to clarify, my brakes are absolutely super, no problems whatsoever, this is purely preventative maintenance. I'm beginning to think I should leave well enough alone...
Just to clarify, my brakes are absolutely super, no problems whatsoever, this is purely preventative maintenance. I'm beginning to think I should leave well enough alone...
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While it might be possible Dot 5 is in the car, some vigourous flushing with dot3/4 will be fine. Of the two, I prefer DOT 4.
AS for "flushing regularly", unless you are tracking the car (and therefore stressing the brake system), there is no real advantage to frequent flushing. Most factory recomendations are once every 2 years for regular street use.
AS for "flushing regularly", unless you are tracking the car (and therefore stressing the brake system), there is no real advantage to frequent flushing. Most factory recomendations are once every 2 years for regular street use.
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While it might be possible Dot 5 is in the car, some vigourous flushing with dot3/4 will be fine. Of the two, I prefer DOT 4.
AS for "flushing regularly", unless you are tracking the car (and therefore stressing the brake system), there is no real advantage to frequent flushing. Most factory recomendations are once every 2 years for regular street use.
AS for "flushing regularly", unless you are tracking the car (and therefore stressing the brake system), there is no real advantage to frequent flushing. Most factory recomendations are once every 2 years for regular street use.
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If it's "pretty dark" fluid now, it's crap, and needs changing. At this stage, it doesn't really matter whether it's DOT 4 or DOT 5 crap. Just flush it well to replace it with DOT 4 non-crap.