pcutt

Pop Sci's March issue has an article on some hot rodded ricers. Those cars are getting some pretty impressive HP numbers (as has been discussed, argued and debated in this forum).

Here's a summary of the cars:

1) 98 Supra
- Upgraded pistons, rods, internals
- Twin turbos with 34 psi boost
- Nitrous
- 1080 HP at wheels (claimed by owner based upon his estimation, not from dyno)

2) Nissan 240SX
- Block from Japanese domestic version
- Bored cyl, upgraded pistons, rods, internals
- Turbo
- 450 HP (doesn't say whether at crank or wheels)

3) 94 Civic with 1.8 liter Acura Integra engine
- Turbo with 26 psi boost
- 600 HP (doesn't say whether at crank or wheels)

What kind of maxed-out power have people gotten from hotrodding 944's?

jaibeiber

the sky is the limit if you have money. but the higher the HP goes the shorter the life. however do those ricers have the brakes to stop those horses?

stjobs

IMO a Supra with 1000+ HP is not rice...

stjobs

Steve Lavigne

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by pcutt:
<strong>1) 98 Supra
- Upgraded pistons, rods, internals
- Twin turbos with 34 psi boost
- Nitrous
- 1080 HP at wheels (claimed by owner based upon his estimation, not from dyno)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Wasn't this the car that SFR/Turbo Tim was working on? Any mention of SFR in the article?

Ag951

I wouldn't say any of those cars are 'rice' by the current derogatory meaning.
Rice is a car with the bookshelf wing, underbody neon lights, a fat tail pipe for the sake of having a fat tail pipe, etc.
Those are highly tuned performance cars.
And the supra (even stock) is an awesome car. It's in the same class as many Porsche models for performance and quality.
<a href="http://www.suprastore.com/suprasforsale.html" target="_blank">Here</a> are some very nice Supras that get 900+ whp without a drop of nitrous.

sweanders

With enough nitrous you can make tons of hp for a very short tim (ms), don't even need and engine.. <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" />

Dave

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Steve Lavigne:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by pcutt:
<strong>1) 98 Supra
- Upgraded pistons, rods, internals
- Twin turbos with 34 psi boost
- Nitrous
- 1080 HP at wheels (claimed by owner based upon his estimation, not from dyno)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Wasn't this the car that SFR/Turbo Tim was working on? Any mention of SFR in the article?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">They mentioned SFR as Tim's partner owns the car, but no mention of Tim.

Mr. Avionics

Call me old fasioned or what ever you want, but I just can't get impressed with a front, or is that "wrong wheel drive" wheel drive "Hot Rod"...No mater how high tech or how much HP it produces. The mental picture of a wrong wheel drive car at a drag strip smoking big fat front slicks just makes me roll on the floor laughing. Really, its too bad that the auto makers went the way of "wrong wheel drive", can you say cheap manufacturing costs, cars. Don't get me wrong, I think the new technology in engines is fantastic, and what they can get out of what used to be considered "economy car" sized motors is great, it's just that doing it to a wrong wheel drive car is ... well it just isn't right....
When I was looking for a sports car last year I looked at the Mitzu 3000's the Dodge stelth but all just wrong wheel drive. Any good Triumph TR-6's where way out of $ range. No good Fiat 124's
arround, then I remembered Porsche 944's, saw a few in the autotrader/news paper that where in the price range, and here I am. And Damn glad I made the choice I did. Wonderful little sports car, and real wheel drive too.
Well I've been soap-boxing enough. Just my 2 cents worth.
Bill <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

Dave951M

From what I have heard in talking with Supra owners, waay big hp can be had, stock brakes are a joke considering what this engine can put out. After looking at the price of Supras, I'll stick with my 951, thank you very much. HP is ok, if you can stop it. Just for grins, Pop Sci should look at the Doom racer with over 900hp, dyno documented, with brakes to match.

brrt50cal

What I find insulting is how they think they can beat a 911 or a 996TT all around. Sorry boys!!! Theres no way a highly modified Toyota can beat a modified Porsche. My cousin owns a 1997 limited edition Supra and it is very very fast. But I can build a Trans Am with a 519 c.i.d engine for 10k less than what he paid for his car. Plus the Trans-Am would blow him away. Anyway, who can argue with a beautifully engineered German machine. At the end of the day they still own a Toyota. I have a Porsche!

Mr. Avionics

Brrt50cal
WELL PUT!

Charlee

Hey, I read this in a Rx7 forum, somewhere: "What does a 800hp Supra and a 400hp Supra, have in common? a 12 sec timeslip!" but anyways, a Trans Am, which have a live-axle rear, will never out handle a car with 4 double wishbone suspension! if your talking about a straight away, who cares a real car can do anything at anytime! not saying a Supra is better than a 996 Turbo. I'm saying it's not a bad car! My .02

brrt50cal

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Charlee:
<strong>Hey, I read this in a Rx7 forum, somewhere: "What does a 800hp Supra and a 400hp Supra, have in common? a 12 sec timeslip!" but anyways, a Trans Am, which have a live-axle rear, will never out handle a car with 4 double wishbone suspension! if your talking about a straight away, who cares a real car can do anything at anytime! not saying a Supra is better than a 996 Turbo. I'm saying it's not a bad car! My .02</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Point I was trying to make was that the primary focus of these cars is to drag race. It seems rediculous to me to put 40 or 50k into a car that can only pull 9 or 10 seconds. I'm not saying its a bad car because it isn't. But the thing is, Toyota has not gone to the lengths that Porsche has to perfectly balance the car and its hp to weight ratio and stuff like that. I think the only thing that car has going for it is its aggressive look.

jabbadeznuts

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by brrt50cal:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Charlee:
<strong>Hey, I read this in a Rx7 forum, somewhere: "What does a 800hp Supra and a 400hp Supra, have in common? a 12 sec timeslip!" but anyways, a Trans Am, which have a live-axle rear, will never out handle a car with 4 double wishbone suspension! if your talking about a straight away, who cares a real car can do anything at anytime! not saying a Supra is better than a 996 Turbo. I'm saying it's not a bad car! My .02</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Point I was trying to make was that the primary focus of these cars is to drag race. It seems rediculous to me to put 40 or 50k into a car that can only pull 9 or 10 seconds. I'm not saying its a bad car because it isn't. But the thing is, Toyota has not gone to the lengths that Porsche has to perfectly balance the car and its hp to weight ratio and stuff like that. I think the only thing that car has going for it is its aggressive look.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">It's not a BAD car, it's just not well rounded. It's not a street car, it's a DRAG car.

Greg

the only thing drag races are about is who has more money to pour in to a car.. not tryin to belittle anyone just sayin, the more u can bolt on / upgrade the faster u go in a straight line.. but who the hell wants to drive in a straight line all the time.. i personally like drift... but whatever im a rice eater... so dont listen to me.. i dont have a cantalope muffler tho so dont get any crazy ideas!