Who designed this crap? I want names!!!
10-01-2002, 04:13 AM
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had nice explanation about what was happenning, but hit the wrong button, and it went somewhere else. tired and lazy, so i'll give you the abridged version.
change in climate=small change in glass fit
change in climate=fairly large change in huge, heavy, curved peices of glass hitching a ride on the back of certain porsche cars.
peace, and good night all
change in climate=small change in glass fit
change in climate=fairly large change in huge, heavy, curved peices of glass hitching a ride on the back of certain porsche cars.
peace, and good night all
10-01-2002, 05:35 AM
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There is a new design of pin available.Porsche changed it, so you can turn it with a screw driver.These pins cost only couple of $.
The hatch release mechanism works VERY WELL, if you pay some attention to it sometimes.I clean & relubricate it about twice a year and have no problems at all with my hatch.
The hatch release mechanism works VERY WELL, if you pay some attention to it sometimes.I clean & relubricate it about twice a year and have no problems at all with my hatch.
10-01-2002, 05:46 AM
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Jon
You might want to check the springs in the latches itself.
They might got week over the years.
Some lithium grease inthere will help on occasions as well (WD-40 will wash out the lubricant that was there).
You also might want to take a look at the position of the latches: I could rotate mine slightly, curing the pop-up problem when I had my go at this one
Rotating them "inwards" (left clockwise / right counter clockwise) will make tha latches engage a bit more.
Also: look at the pin. The edge on the top should not be rounded off.
Replacement pins should be obtainable from the local junk-yard, serving an early Golf / Passat in its active life.
TakeCare
You might want to check the springs in the latches itself.
They might got week over the years.
Some lithium grease inthere will help on occasions as well (WD-40 will wash out the lubricant that was there).
You also might want to take a look at the position of the latches: I could rotate mine slightly, curing the pop-up problem when I had my go at this one
Rotating them "inwards" (left clockwise / right counter clockwise) will make tha latches engage a bit more.
Also: look at the pin. The edge on the top should not be rounded off.
Replacement pins should be obtainable from the local junk-yard, serving an early Golf / Passat in its active life.
TakeCare
10-01-2002, 09:34 AM
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For those of y'all tinkering with the latches, here's two maybe useful tips...
a) use a wad of rag or paper towel around the mushroom head of the pin before applying the vise-grips or Channelocks; this'll prevent scarring of the edge.
b) dunno if it's the best grease, but on my mechanic's recommendation, I got a small can of 3-M silicone paste grease at the local NAPA. White metal can with a screw lid, applicator brush on the underside of the lid, medium pricey (~$10 for 8 oz., IIRC). 3-M part number is 051135-08946. Good for hinges, latches, etc. Looks like a can will last me several years, even with two vehicles.
Jim, "Operator error; replace operator and strike any key when ready."
a) use a wad of rag or paper towel around the mushroom head of the pin before applying the vise-grips or Channelocks; this'll prevent scarring of the edge.
b) dunno if it's the best grease, but on my mechanic's recommendation, I got a small can of 3-M silicone paste grease at the local NAPA. White metal can with a screw lid, applicator brush on the underside of the lid, medium pricey (~$10 for 8 oz., IIRC). 3-M part number is 051135-08946. Good for hinges, latches, etc. Looks like a can will last me several years, even with two vehicles.
Jim, "Operator error; replace operator and strike any key when ready."
10-01-2002, 12:18 PM
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[quote]jim:..of 3-M silicone paste grease... <hr></blockquote>I know that stuff, also obtainable in spray cans. Not 3M though.
Works better than lithium grease, less atrraction of dirt so longer intervals of trouble free operation and less dirty grease to clean up.
Less freezing problems as well.
TakeCare
ADDED
Jim: what about this one for punch line:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons, Civil Engineers build targets.
Would this be too scary for the military?
Without Engineers no weapons AND no targets!!
Life would be misserable then.
(Couldnt wait till friday
TakeCare
Works better than lithium grease, less atrraction of dirt so longer intervals of trouble free operation and less dirty grease to clean up.
Less freezing problems as well.
TakeCare
ADDED
Jim: what about this one for punch line:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons, Civil Engineers build targets.
Would this be too scary for the military?
Without Engineers no weapons AND no targets!!
Life would be misserable then.
(Couldnt wait till friday
TakeCare
10-01-2002, 06:52 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Bob S.:
<strong>Hi Stefan
I have resealed two of these cursed rear hatchs and found some things that help. First, the active latch parts can become quite dirty and not operate freely. By itself, this can result in one or both sides not latching. Clean them and apply just a dab of white grease to the assembly. Second, make certain you "soak " the adjusters well before trying to turn them very far. Given the actice member works correctly, adjust the units until both latch and a piece of paper stuck between the casket and the grame comesout with a bit of dofficulty. You do not want to compress the gasket totally flat; it will leak over time this way. The adjusters can be further adjusted if required (quarter turns..no more at one time). Finally, the gasket itself can be wiped down with silicone spray. This should be done every so often anyway since it seems to make the gasket last longer.
Hope this helps. Glad you liked the other post...Sometimes I think our series of cars is "Ferdie's Revenge". But for what, I don't know....</strong><hr></blockquote>
Bob .... I just completed my adjustments and lubes ... crossing my fingers for the test drive. I think I had one side too tight. The paper test was a good trick.
I also checked "Ferdie's Fixin up der Porsche Factory Manuals" and found no trace of hatch adjustment apart from the motor. He knew He'd stump us with this curse. Makes me want a cabrio!
<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
<strong>Hi Stefan
I have resealed two of these cursed rear hatchs and found some things that help. First, the active latch parts can become quite dirty and not operate freely. By itself, this can result in one or both sides not latching. Clean them and apply just a dab of white grease to the assembly. Second, make certain you "soak " the adjusters well before trying to turn them very far. Given the actice member works correctly, adjust the units until both latch and a piece of paper stuck between the casket and the grame comesout with a bit of dofficulty. You do not want to compress the gasket totally flat; it will leak over time this way. The adjusters can be further adjusted if required (quarter turns..no more at one time). Finally, the gasket itself can be wiped down with silicone spray. This should be done every so often anyway since it seems to make the gasket last longer.
Hope this helps. Glad you liked the other post...Sometimes I think our series of cars is "Ferdie's Revenge". But for what, I don't know....</strong><hr></blockquote>
Bob .... I just completed my adjustments and lubes ... crossing my fingers for the test drive. I think I had one side too tight. The paper test was a good trick.
I also checked "Ferdie's Fixin up der Porsche Factory Manuals" and found no trace of hatch adjustment apart from the motor. He knew He'd stump us with this curse. Makes me want a cabrio!
<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
10-02-2002, 12:03 AM
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Well, that did it. Hatch problems are gone. Stays shut and stopped rattling. Had to loosen one side so it wasn't so tight and also adjust the latch receptacle in the body so that it lined up nice.
I think Bob's paper test is THE BOMB!
<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
(Now lets see if this somehow blows my clock fuse)
I think Bob's paper test is THE BOMB!
<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
(Now lets see if this somehow blows my clock fuse)
10-02-2002, 04:31 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Hans:
<strong>Ix
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Jim: what about this one for punch line:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons, Civil Engineers build targets.
TakeCare</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, I've used this line several times to tweak the guys down the hall in the Civil Tech department. It always gets a funny look. One of them is a West Point grad...
And yes, the silicone paste grease is _good_ stuff... hatch pins, hood latches, etc.
Jim, "Dyslectics of the world, UNTIE!"
<strong>Ix
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Jim: what about this one for punch line:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons, Civil Engineers build targets.
TakeCare</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, I've used this line several times to tweak the guys down the hall in the Civil Tech department.
It always gets a funny look. One of them is a West Point grad... And yes, the silicone paste grease is _good_ stuff... hatch pins, hood latches, etc.
Jim, "Dyslectics of the world, UNTIE!"
