What's wrong with the 996?
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What's wrong with the 996?
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Too bad these new 996s cant get 200,000+ miles like our illegitimate Porsches can.
Too bad these new 996s cant get 200,000+ miles like our illegitimate Porsches can.
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We dont know what sort of problems our engines had when they were new...we only know they work great now.
The above applies to most of us, there are a few that were old enough/could afford these cars when they were new.
The above applies to most of us, there are a few that were old enough/could afford these cars when they were new.
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That's what happens when you mass-produce. Higher rate of failure per units, etc.
For instance, only 527 of my particular 951 were built. It now has 62K miles and still runs like a 951 should. I'm pretty confident that they built these cars to traditional Porsche standards of quality and reliability, no matter what 944-bashers think
For instance, only 527 of my particular 951 were built. It now has 62K miles and still runs like a 951 should. I'm pretty confident that they built these cars to traditional Porsche standards of quality and reliability, no matter what 944-bashers think
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by adrial:
<strong>We dont know what sort of problems our engines had when they were new...we only know they work great now.
The above applies to most of us, there are a few that were old enough/could afford these cars when they were new.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><img border="0" alt="[nono]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" />
Watch your toung young-un. I remember when these cars were new, but your right, couldn't afford one back then either. Got out of the Navy in May-83 after a 11 year hitch. Looking at the Big FIVE-O first of next month. UGggg......Oh well.
Have fun all.
Bill <img border="0" alt="[byebye]" title="" src="graemlins/wave.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />
<strong>We dont know what sort of problems our engines had when they were new...we only know they work great now.
The above applies to most of us, there are a few that were old enough/could afford these cars when they were new.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><img border="0" alt="[nono]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" />
Watch your toung young-un. I remember when these cars were new, but your right, couldn't afford one back then either. Got out of the Navy in May-83 after a 11 year hitch. Looking at the Big FIVE-O first of next month. UGggg......Oh well.
Have fun all.
Bill <img border="0" alt="[byebye]" title="" src="graemlins/wave.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Scootin159:
<strong>I've only been to the dealer once to have mine looked at, and while I was there, there was 2 996's with less than 10k miles both needing new engines.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> That sucks.
<strong>I've only been to the dealer once to have mine looked at, and while I was there, there was 2 996's with less than 10k miles both needing new engines.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> That sucks.
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well, its 9:44 am, and here i am on rennlist... how appropriate
looks like pcna or just porsche overall is having trouble due to the fact that to sell all these high priced sports cars and make a buck, they need to think mass production. quality is suffering because of it. i'm sure the 944 had its share of failures back in the day too, but it seems that porsche did a great job engineering this engine, since they seem to last forever when compared with others. now because they sacrificed quality for quantity, they're eating it. probably would have cost em less to do it right in the first place now because of this bungling error, the stinkin cayenne had to be made. 'tis a slippery slope to crappy car makership.
Bill- whats going on? you, travis, and some other sofla owners need to have our own little get together in wpb or something. i'm thinking an ale house maybe? my dad'll be in, he's not been able to go to any of the orlando ones, but i'm sure he'd be willing to drive one of ours and i could take mine as always. pm me or something and maybe we could set it up!
Mike, one day i'll have my commercial pilots license... one day...
looks like pcna or just porsche overall is having trouble due to the fact that to sell all these high priced sports cars and make a buck, they need to think mass production. quality is suffering because of it. i'm sure the 944 had its share of failures back in the day too, but it seems that porsche did a great job engineering this engine, since they seem to last forever when compared with others. now because they sacrificed quality for quantity, they're eating it. probably would have cost em less to do it right in the first place now because of this bungling error, the stinkin cayenne had to be made. 'tis a slippery slope to crappy car makership.
Bill- whats going on? you, travis, and some other sofla owners need to have our own little get together in wpb or something. i'm thinking an ale house maybe? my dad'll be in, he's not been able to go to any of the orlando ones, but i'm sure he'd be willing to drive one of ours and i could take mine as always. pm me or something and maybe we could set it up!
Mike, one day i'll have my commercial pilots license... one day...
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My dad bought my 944 brand new in Janurary of 84. The only thing that gave him a problem was the slave cylinder which went out after a few thousand miles. He sold it around '86 so I don't know what happened to it after that but I can't imagine having the engine go out after just 10,000 miles. At least we can say that our P-cars from the 80s are the most reliable.
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At a recent PCA tech session at the local dealership we looked at several relatively (less than 20k) new 986s and 996s up on a lift. Every one of them was leaking oil! Most of the 996 owners seemed to know the service tech quite well.
Now, Porsche's new warranty was covering all of the repairs and one would assume that in 50k miles or 3 years you could get all of the bugs worked out. However, a good friend who was there that day was considering a new 996 purchase and decided against it on the spot.
I don't expect a high strung sports car to be Toyota-reliable, but this is ridiculous!
Now, Porsche's new warranty was covering all of the repairs and one would assume that in 50k miles or 3 years you could get all of the bugs worked out. However, a good friend who was there that day was considering a new 996 purchase and decided against it on the spot.
I don't expect a high strung sports car to be Toyota-reliable, but this is ridiculous!
#14
Keep in mind as well regarding the 996s that need motors or transmissions replaced...Porsche now has a rule that service techs aren't allowed to open up motors or transmissions...anything wierd that they figure is internal, under warranty, and they MUST replace the whole unit. So even for something small like a rattle in the tranny (happened on an 02 twin turbo with 500 miles we had here) and the whole shebang must come out and be replaced. Says something about their confidence in their techs ;o)
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That is an interesting policy...replace the engine instead of replacing a part. I wonder if the policy is the same in Germany...is it that non-German techs are not as competent?