luftpirate

So I have been searching through all the plug wire threads trying to find out what the best 8mm wire set to use with my MSD coil.

The Magnecor KV85 seemed to be a favorite a few years back. 8.5mm in diameter, but no Beru plugs and people have complained about fitment and the boots tearing. Some have crimpted on their own Beru boots.

The Kingsbornes seem to be a real popular OEM replacement but stock is 7mm. I checked out their website and saw that they did not have a 8mm set listed. I saw somewhere searching someone had called them and they gave them a part number for the 8mm, I did the same.
The part number Kingsborne gave me for the 8mm wires with the Beru plugs is
"09-566"

I called AutoAtlanta to see if they stocked them and they weren't able to verify this model was an 8mm wire. They also only had 7mms listed when I searched for by "Kingsborne."

Now I have noticed that this part number seems to be generic and is used across several different manufacturers or perhaps same manufacturers in different flavors with modifiers.

Long story short it seems a lot of ("high performance" 8mm) sets are selling for around 150. I was able to find these "Fyrebraids" for 86 bucks shipped.

I am not 100% sure these "Fyrebraids" are the same "Firebraid" wires thats Kingsborn sells under the same part number and 1200 degree rating.

I found them at the below site (no affil.) and will be giving them a try, the Beru ends look a little different than some of the other more expensive sets I have seen, perhaps the more expensive sets have a better grade Beru end? or perhaps they are just different revisions from Magnacore.

I am going to call tomorrow and find out if the Fyrebraid/Firebraid thing is just a type or if "Fyrebraids" are some sort of knockoff. Plan on posting back once I find out how they work out and my dealings with the vendor who seems to have better than fair shipping prices.

http://www.allzim.com/acatalog/Fyreb...4S944944T.html


* I know all this might be ridiculous for a non-performance item, if nothing else I hope to just get it sorted out. Would be happy to hear what everyone else experiences have been.

JohnKoaWood

http://www.lindseyracing.com/LR/Parts/MAGWIRE.html

I have them on my N/A with a MSD Coil...

luftpirate

Are those 8mm? I'm not sure why it wouldn't be advertised.

JohnKoaWood

It is the wire set included in their tune up package, and can be bundled with the MSD coil (how I came to have it on my N/A...)

roman944

Pelican has some kind of special wires too for $80

what do you get out of running MSD coil and 8mm+ ignition wires?

luftpirate

I don't think we gain anything, MSD just recommends the 8mm wires, I'm guessing because of extra insulation due to higher voltage. Might be able to get some better fuel economy if that allows me to gap plugs more without misfires.

luftpirate

Just placed an order, the wires from Zims are Kingsborne (They just spelled fire wrong on the website), the owner says he has been selling Kingsborne for 28 years, They were $92 bucks shipped, 8mm spiral wound w/ Beru ends.

luftpirate

Here they are, fit perfectly. The miss I had around 4k seems to be gone now too which is a plus

kombatrok

They're red... so they must be HIGH PERFORMANCE!

I'm sure stock wires are just fine... my car certianly runs great with them.

luftpirate

Yeah I covered up all that red loom with carbon fiber duct tape. They weren't performance enough for me.



Next time bother to actually read the thread.

roman944

what do you guys use for spark plugs?

mine look good, though I don't know how old they are, and I've had the car for 3 years now and haven't changed them yet, but with everything going in fresh - figure they are cheap enough to do now as well

elzergone

Pretty sure Bosch Super Plus is the recommended now a days. Alteast thats why I remember

Hows the head rebuild going Roman? Car back on the road yet?

roman944

no not yet

I got the hoses figured out, I got my A/C delete late yesterday, I just got that on

so I'm all ready to put more stuff back on, I figure I'll be ready to tension belts by Saturday for sure

oh and reason why I asked, is that some people swear by the +4's or w/e, but these cars are older, and I never see topics on the plugs or anything, so I thought I'd ask - since this is the very next thing I'll be doing; also, for now I'll use old spark plug wires, they still appear to be in good condition (though, I will double check)

Rogue_Ant

Ok, now that we've solved the plug wires problem, lets take a look at the real problem

99999999 ^ 9999999 x 9999 + 1

Now the arithmetic is not significantly hard, however the sheer size of the number quickly becomes problematic...
99999999 ^ 99999999, is the same as doing 99999999x99999999, 9999999 times.
Even evaluating this once (with the final x 9999 + 1), is a larger number then what todays computers can natively handle. The largest integer most computers can natively is 2^64, or 18446744073709551616. In fact just that one iteration of our problem is about 5x larger then what most computers can handle.

Now the problem with this problem becomes more clear.
Fortunately, large number theory is what most codes and code breaking is based off of. And with that, special programs (libraries) have been made to deal with extremely large numbers, such as our problem.
I first made a Java program to figure out the problem, and after 32hours of straight number-crunching, my dual-core computer crashed. I had significantly underestimated how poor Java is for this type of a problem.
But then I tried again, this time using C++ and a highly optimized large-number library. And finally, I was rewarded with the answer.

The size of the final number is really quite amazing, and is equally impossible to post the full number here. But here is the stats... The final number is 79,999,996 digits long, takes ~78MB of space, and would fill about 20,000 pages!

If someone is really interested I can send you a .zip file of the number (the .zip file is 36MB!).


-Rogue

Rogue_Ant

Nobody likes math huh?