keith

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by 944LT1:
<strong>I have ss lines with a/n fittings. The connections at fender are no problem. The supply uses a 3/8 compression fitting (you simply drill the ferrel out to 10mm) no flaring required. The return line has to be flaired and uses a 5/16 fitting. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">OK, so I'm an idiot, but is there a fitting that is compression on one end and swedge on the other?? Or, how are you accomplishing this? Can I see some pictures of the components/sizes? Do you remove the bump at the end of the metal line in the fender? etc., etc...

Andre

hey tazman, those bright blue wires are vacuum lines right?i will have the engine out soon and figure its a good idea to change the lines and was wondering whether to go to the reg lines like that or keep the straw type lines. Do you suggest going to the rubber ones?

Also....I might be really stupid but i dont understand why you cant go to home depot and buy ss braided by the foot and put it on?whats with the AN fittings?what do they provide for the extra like 90 bucks?

944LT1

Keith, I'm out of town untill this weekend. I will get you part #'s and pics this weekend.

Bill

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"> I dont feel that an A/N setup would be cost effective for most of us. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">In responce to that, I would pay $1,000 dollars to prevent BURNING the $20,000+ I have invested in my car. Not to mention the grief and horror of the sutuation, as many can attest.

Penny wise and pound foolish.

I can't believe that someone has not come up with a solution to this one yet. Weld a male connector onto the fuel rail, provide a fuel line with male ends from the filter to the fuel rail and make some money. Please.

Steve Lavigne

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Bill:
<strong>I can't believe that someone has not come up with a solution to this one yet. Weld a male connector onto the fuel rail, provide a fuel line with male ends from the filter to the fuel rail and make some money. Please.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><a href="http://www.technodyneracing.com/technodyne1/parts.html#item1" target="_blank">http://www.technodyneracing.com/technodyne1/parts.html#item1</a>

$250

sm

How does the SS fuel line actually connect to the AN/Metric compression fitting? Does the connector slide over the end of the hose and you simply torque it down creating a compression fit, while connecting the threaded nut to the dampener? That compression fit with out crimps is enough to prevent leaks?

tazman

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Andre:
<strong>hey tazman, those bright blue wires are vacuum lines right?i will have the engine out soon and figure its a good idea to change the lines and was wondering whether to go to the reg lines like that or keep the straw type lines. Do you suggest going to the rubber ones?

Also....I might be really stupid but i dont understand why you cant go to home depot and buy ss braided by the foot and put it on?whats with the AN fittings?what do they provide for the extra like 90 bucks?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I am happy with the vacuum lines I have. Many others on the board use them. Just make sure you use something with a thick wall or it can collapse under vacuum. I bought my vacuum line from <a href="http://www.hosetechniques.com" target="_blank">http://www.hosetechniques.com</a> <a href="http://www.lindseyracing.com" target="_blank">http://www.lindseyracing.com</a> seems to have a nice kit available with brass T's which I could not find locally.

With the SS lines as long as what Home Depot sells is rated to run fuel through it that is fine. The AN fittings are made to hold the higher pressure better than a hose clamp but with that being said a lot of us use hose clamps on the fuel lines.

There is a lot of information about both of these items here. If you do a search you will find everything you need to make an informed decision on what will work for you.

Bill

Thanks Steve.

Guess we should have done that dinner before you left town. You sure snuck out quietly.

SM, I also wonder about the compression fit at the dampner/pressure regulator/hard lines. I will call Technodyne.

Andre

thanks for the help, anyone know the size of all the vacuum lines and about how many ft i will need if i want to replace most of them on a 951 engine?

hmmm now gotta decide what color...jet-black, silver...or maybe yellow for the extra hp?

Steve Lavigne

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Bill:
<strong>Guess we should have done that dinner before you left town. You sure snuck out quietly.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Maybe I'll make the next Norcal Pizza Run. I suppose I could make it to the bay area in about 10 hours with the right amount of luck and countermeasures.

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keith

LT1, any word, thunderbird?

Manning

I have replied to several of these threads in the past with the exact hose sizes and fittings, as well as required tool and where to purchase all of this stuff. I'll do a search and see if I can find any of the original threads. If anyone is interested in a parts list let me know. You won't get off cheaply if you do this right though and may wind up paying a few hundred for everything including the 37 degree flair tool from Aircraft Spruce.

Manning

Here is one old thread:

<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=007189;p=4#000051" target="_blank">http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=007189;p=4#000051</a>

and another:

<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=012190#000001" target="_blank">http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=012190#000001</a>

and yet another:

<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=013315#000009" target="_blank">http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=013315#000009</a>

and one more:

no, just kidding.

944LT1

Here are the fittings to convert the hard lines at the fender well to AN fittings (army/navy for those who dont know what AN stands for)

For the 10mm supply line:
Earls #165006 (3/8 tube to male 6AN)
You will need to drill the ferrel to 10mm
NO flaring reguired!

For the 8mm return line:
Earls #581805 (nut)
Earls #5810905 (tube sleeve)
Earls #991907 (5 to 6 union)
You will need to flare the hard return line. AN fittings are 37 degree flare BUT you can use a 45 degree Standard flaring tool an just tighten the SH&! out of the fitting and it will pull into place.

You will need 6AN hose (which is 6/16 or 3/8)
You will need hose ends on each end of hose
Earls #300106 for straight
Earls #309106 for 90 degree
(They make any degree 45, 120, 160, 180 etc.. as well)

As for the fittings needed for the engine side?

Best place to buy Earls AN fittings:
W.M. Enginering 800-886-3275

944LT1

BTW I have all these parts on hand and will be installing them on a car in a few days. I will post pictures of the install.