944na vs riceracers
07-23-2002, 03:35 PM
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Speaking of ricers, you guys should see these two losers in my town. They both own identical silver Dodge Neons with tacky blue flame decals running down the sides! Of course, they both have the mandatory racing stickers and giant coffee can exhausts. They must be twins or something b/c they're always together. (strength in numbers?) Yeah, these posers are real cool when they leave the mall parking lot while squealing their tires. Ooooooh, am I impressed or what??!! I hate ricers, I really do... 
07-23-2002, 03:42 PM
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I've never understood the concept behind throwing a ridiculous looking rear wing on a 100HP FRONT WHEEL DRIVE car...whats the point? Here in DC, all I ever see are the Honda Civics with the awful sounding exhaust and the sickening body kit. They always want to race stoplight to stoplight. I never do. Let them look like jackasses in their rice machines...
Whats even worse if you ask me is the Dodge/Plymouth Neon Ford Focus trend. These fools throw the rims, spoliers, graphics and sound systems into these COMMUTER cars and think they are the friggin Ferrari's. Makes me want to puke.
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Whats even worse if you ask me is the Dodge/Plymouth Neon Ford Focus trend. These fools throw the rims, spoliers, graphics and sound systems into these COMMUTER cars and think they are the friggin Ferrari's. Makes me want to puke.
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07-23-2002, 03:43 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by dave120:
<strong>Everybody knows rice rockets don't have much after 100, although they claim they can get to like 150..yeah right.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The Integra Type R will, I promise. I will see if we still have the vmax on the GPS.
<strong>Everybody knows rice rockets don't have much after 100, although they claim they can get to like 150..yeah right.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The Integra Type R will, I promise. I will see if we still have the vmax on the GPS.
07-23-2002, 03:47 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Tabor Kelly:
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The Integra Type R will, I promise. I will see if we still have the vmax on the GPS.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm not talking about a real Type R Integra I'm talking about the morons who put the Type R sticker and an exaust can on and act like it's got 500 hp or some crap.
Besides real Type R Integras are more rare than my S2...and if it was FWD I wouldn't get in the seat over 80 mph anyways.
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The Integra Type R will, I promise. I will see if we still have the vmax on the GPS.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm not talking about a real Type R Integra I'm talking about the morons who put the Type R sticker and an exaust can on and act like it's got 500 hp or some crap.
Besides real Type R Integras are more rare than my S2...and if it was FWD I wouldn't get in the seat over 80 mph anyways.
07-23-2002, 04:12 PM
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[quote] Whats even worse if you ask me is the Dodge/Plymouth Neon Ford Focus trend. <hr></blockquote>
Don't lump the Neon in with the Focus. The Focus does look crap if it isn't the hatch but it is one of the world's current best handling cars - no really! They stick like sh*t to a blanket.
The Neon is a dog turd and bolting on body kits and wheels is just polishing it.
Don't lump the Neon in with the Focus. The Focus does look crap if it isn't the hatch but it is one of the world's current best handling cars - no really! They stick like sh*t to a blanket.
The Neon is a dog turd and bolting on body kits and wheels is just polishing it.
07-23-2002, 04:17 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by dave120:
<strong>Besides real Type R Integras are more rare than my S2...</strong><hr></blockquote>
S2 (US):
1989 970
1990 449
1991 510
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1929
Integra Type R (US)
1997 300
1998 500+
1999 0
2000 1000+
2001 ?
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1800+
Now, this is what I know about Integra Type R production. I suspect they produced as many in 2001 as they did in 2000. In that case it would put way more Integra Type Rs on the road than 944 S2s. I will do a little more research and find out for you.
<strong>Besides real Type R Integras are more rare than my S2...</strong><hr></blockquote>
S2 (US):
1989 970
1990 449
1991 510
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1929
Integra Type R (US)
1997 300
1998 500+
1999 0
2000 1000+
2001 ?
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1800+
Now, this is what I know about Integra Type R production. I suspect they produced as many in 2001 as they did in 2000. In that case it would put way more Integra Type Rs on the road than 944 S2s. I will do a little more research and find out for you.
07-23-2002, 04:20 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Tabor Kelly:
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S2 (US):
1989 970
1990 449
1991 510
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1929
Integra Type R (US)
1997 300
1998 500+
1999 0
2000 1000+
2001 ?
----------
1800+
Now, this is what I know about Integra Type R production. I suspect they produced as many in 2001 as they did in 2000. In that case it would put way more Integra Type Rs on the road than 944 S2s. I will do a little more research and find out for you.</strong><hr></blockquote>
lol I was just using it as an example. Probably 20% of the Integras that say "Type R" are real ones. Most are just people sticking the badges on.
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S2 (US):
1989 970
1990 449
1991 510
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1929
Integra Type R (US)
1997 300
1998 500+
1999 0
2000 1000+
2001 ?
----------
1800+
Now, this is what I know about Integra Type R production. I suspect they produced as many in 2001 as they did in 2000. In that case it would put way more Integra Type Rs on the road than 944 S2s. I will do a little more research and find out for you.</strong><hr></blockquote>
lol I was just using it as an example. Probably 20% of the Integras that say "Type R" are real ones. Most are just people sticking the badges on.
07-23-2002, 04:25 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by dave120:
<strong>lol I was just using it as an example. Probably 20% of the Integras that say "Type R" are real ones. Most are just people sticking the badges on.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You think I don't know that? The worst thing is that a bunch of people ruined perfectly good Intega Type R's.
All ITRs have 5-bolt suspension, where as the normal integras, even the GSRs have 4-bolt. However, some people have put the ITR suspension on the other integras. At that point you need to pop the hatch to tell. There was special additional bracing added to the chassie on the ITR.
<strong>lol I was just using it as an example. Probably 20% of the Integras that say "Type R" are real ones. Most are just people sticking the badges on.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You think I don't know that? The worst thing is that a bunch of people ruined perfectly good Intega Type R's.
All ITRs have 5-bolt suspension, where as the normal integras, even the GSRs have 4-bolt. However, some people have put the ITR suspension on the other integras. At that point you need to pop the hatch to tell. There was special additional bracing added to the chassie on the ITR.
07-23-2002, 10:08 PM
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some of the rice rockets are plenty fast. I also own a 2001 gt mustang w/ cold air induction. A couple of the honda's have given me a run for my money. As far as my Porsche goes though, I just grin and drive off because I know as well as they do that my 944 looks better and can take a corner faster than any ground pounder ever thought. But I have taken a few!!!!! And explained what was really sad besides getting beat is that I paid less for my car than they paid for just the rims!!
07-23-2002, 10:34 PM
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Yeah, Honda has done a great job with the Type R, and they really sweat the details. How many production cars have the luxury of hand-polished ports? (and thin-stem, lightweight valves to further take advantage of the increased flow?). When they went to those 5-lug wheels (with a bigger bolt circle), they also increased the rear bearing span by 10 mm just for good measure. Like Porsche, they look at the total performance envelope and upgrade all parts to work well at the new, higher level.
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i will just say right now that i love hondas, as much as i do porsche (i think drag racing an ITR is a crime that should be severely punished).
honda & porsche are, and have for several years, been my favorite marques.
and i can happily say that all of the cars titled in my name are either honda or porsche
the CRX & integra are the project (once the porsche's engine is finished being assembled and the rust is taken care of).
i plan on rebuilding and building the D16A1 in the integra to drop into the CRX
the result will be an 1800-1900 lbs go-kart powered by ~160HP at the crank (when all the engine mods are done.. that is my HP target)
if anyone would like info about any civic/integra based vehicle (especially in terms of engine technology) feel free to send me a private message. i know all kinds of factoids like the fact that the peak piston speed in the ITR's B18C5 is higher than any of honda's race engines (including CART/F1) due to the short rod and fairly long stroke (1.58 rod stroke ratio and an 81mm stroke). the pistons are coated with a special low-friction molybdenum coating to reduce friction losses.
honda & porsche are, and have for several years, been my favorite marques.
and i can happily say that all of the cars titled in my name are either honda or porsche
the CRX & integra are the project (once the porsche's engine is finished being assembled and the rust is taken care of).
i plan on rebuilding and building the D16A1 in the integra to drop into the CRX
the result will be an 1800-1900 lbs go-kart powered by ~160HP at the crank (when all the engine mods are done.. that is my HP target)
if anyone would like info about any civic/integra based vehicle (especially in terms of engine technology) feel free to send me a private message. i know all kinds of factoids like the fact that the peak piston speed in the ITR's B18C5 is higher than any of honda's race engines (including CART/F1) due to the short rod and fairly long stroke (1.58 rod stroke ratio and an 81mm stroke). the pistons are coated with a special low-friction molybdenum coating to reduce friction losses.
07-23-2002, 11:00 PM
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Actually a GSR will smoke a 944 n/a top end, as my friend has one and we've messed around quite a bit. I smoke him off the line and pull on him till about 75, then he just barely pulls ahead.
He's only got intake/headers/exhaust though too so we're both basically stock.
He's only got intake/headers/exhaust though too so we're both basically stock.
07-24-2002, 12:32 AM
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hey shawn,wasn't M471 an option package on the 914/6,steel flares ,wheel spacers.Just never heard of it as a suspension code for 924's <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
07-24-2002, 12:44 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by paul944fanatic:
<strong>I've never understood the concept behind throwing a ridiculous looking rear wing on a 100HP FRONT WHEEL DRIVE car...whats the point?
Paul</strong><hr></blockquote>
I asked a guy who ownes an aftermarket parts store the very same question and his response was
"it puts money in my pocket."
<strong>I've never understood the concept behind throwing a ridiculous looking rear wing on a 100HP FRONT WHEEL DRIVE car...whats the point?
Paul</strong><hr></blockquote>
I asked a guy who ownes an aftermarket parts store the very same question and his response was
"it puts money in my pocket."
07-24-2002, 03:02 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Tabor Kelly:
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The Integra Type R will, I promise. I will see if we still have the vmax on the GPS.</strong><hr></blockquote>
A friend of mine who owned a 1994 968 Coupe in Orange County, California (yes like the movie
) took on a 2000 Integra type R yellow both off the line and in a freeway race. He said that the Integra was quick off the line but had ABSOLUTELY no steam after 110 mph. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Honda's quickest model car overrated? Yea the car will be fast if you turbo it and chip it and yadda yadda yadda...
But if you do the same thing to a 968 (as little power as you can get) the 968 will still destroy a Type R. Hell a 944 S2 will destroy a Type R!
Behold, the performance specs of the 2000 Acura Integra Type R:
Performance
Time to speed 0-30 mph.....2.9
0-60 mph.....6.5
30-50 mph....2.2
50-70 mph....3.3
Time to distance 14.7 sec @ 95.2 mph
Minimum stopping distance From 60 mph . . 116 ft
Lateral acceleration (200 - ft skidpad) . . 0.91g
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway-25/31 mpg
Interior Noise 70 mph cruising . . . 79 dBA
Here's the 968:
Performance:
Top Speed (km/h) 251 (156 mph)
0-100 (km/h) 5.9
Need I say more?
The Type R Integra is a nice car, don't get me wrong, but for the price I would get a nice used 968 bone stock that would still make the thing look like the Honda that it is...
<img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />
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The Integra Type R will, I promise. I will see if we still have the vmax on the GPS.</strong><hr></blockquote>
A friend of mine who owned a 1994 968 Coupe in Orange County, California (yes like the movie
) took on a 2000 Integra type R yellow both off the line and in a freeway race. He said that the Integra was quick off the line but had ABSOLUTELY no steam after 110 mph. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Honda's quickest model car overrated? Yea the car will be fast if you turbo it and chip it and yadda yadda yadda...But if you do the same thing to a 968 (as little power as you can get) the 968 will still destroy a Type R. Hell a 944 S2 will destroy a Type R!
Behold, the performance specs of the 2000 Acura Integra Type R:
Performance
Time to speed 0-30 mph.....2.9
0-60 mph.....6.5
30-50 mph....2.2
50-70 mph....3.3
Time to distance 14.7 sec @ 95.2 mph
Minimum stopping distance From 60 mph . . 116 ft
Lateral acceleration (200 - ft skidpad) . . 0.91g
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway-25/31 mpg
Interior Noise 70 mph cruising . . . 79 dBA
Here's the 968:
Performance:
Top Speed (km/h) 251 (156 mph)
0-100 (km/h) 5.9
Need I say more?
The Type R Integra is a nice car, don't get me wrong, but for the price I would get a nice used 968 bone stock that would still make the thing look like the Honda that it is...
<img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />