restoring a yellow coolant tank....interesting
10-12-2009, 04:25 AM
#16
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I don't know. But the white ones available new now are nice.
10-12-2009, 04:49 AM
#17
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But if you look at photos of these engines back in the '80s, the expansion tanks don't have that 'bleached white' look that the new replacements have now.
OE parts quality has been known to change over time and just because the tanks Porsche is selling now are white doesn't mean they were the same 15 or 20 years ago.
Here's a recent photo of my 951's engine with a new expansion tank. And I don't know where you must be buying yours, but the turbo tanks are not cheap if you consider they cost nearly twice as much as the N/A tanks.
Exactly what I meant, thanks!
10-12-2009, 07:54 AM
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10-12-2009, 08:31 AM
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Drifting
10-12-2009, 09:14 AM
#21
Drifting
they are very cheap, pelican sell them for $142US. im not sure you could make one for that much. you could try though. we are actually lucky that porsche still sell these as a spare part. many car manufacturers stop producing parts past 4 years. it really comes down to supply and demand. if we continue to buy parts for these cars from porsche they will continue to make them. as soon as they see a part as not making much money they will stop making it.
your a comedian Curt. i was 3 when the 944 turbo was released in australia. lucky for me i have lived with porsches my whole life. My dad worked for a Porsche dealer here in sydney for over 15 years, then started his own porsche specialist shop which he has run for over 17 years, i have been working with him since 2000. there is very little i dont know about the 944/928 and 911. when you work on them day in you get to know these cars back the front. i am very lucky.
My dad can remember when they were delivered back in the day, new at Porsche and the tanks were white. i would say they do still make the tanks out of the same material. even brand new ones go yellow over time
your a comedian Curt. i was 3 when the 944 turbo was released in australia. lucky for me i have lived with porsches my whole life. My dad worked for a Porsche dealer here in sydney for over 15 years, then started his own porsche specialist shop which he has run for over 17 years, i have been working with him since 2000. there is very little i dont know about the 944/928 and 911. when you work on them day in you get to know these cars back the front. i am very lucky.
My dad can remember when they were delivered back in the day, new at Porsche and the tanks were white. i would say they do still make the tanks out of the same material. even brand new ones go yellow over time
10-12-2009, 10:53 AM
#22
Burning Brakes
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they are very cheap, pelican sell them for $142US. im not sure you could make one for that much. you could try though. we are actually lucky that porsche still sell these as a spare part. many car manufacturers stop producing parts past 4 years. it really comes down to supply and demand. if we continue to buy parts for these cars from porsche they will continue to make them. as soon as they see a part as not making much money they will stop making it.
your a comedian Curt. i was 3 when the 944 turbo was released in australia. lucky for me i have lived with porsches my whole life. My dad worked for a Porsche dealer here in sydney for over 15 years, then started his own porsche specialist shop which he has run for over 17 years, i have been working with him since 2000. there is very little i dont know about the 944/928 and 911. when you work on them day in you get to know these cars back the front. i am very lucky.
My dad can remember when they were delivered back in the day, new at Porsche and the tanks were white. i would say they do still make the tanks out of the same material. even brand new ones go yellow over time
your a comedian Curt. i was 3 when the 944 turbo was released in australia. lucky for me i have lived with porsches my whole life. My dad worked for a Porsche dealer here in sydney for over 15 years, then started his own porsche specialist shop which he has run for over 17 years, i have been working with him since 2000. there is very little i dont know about the 944/928 and 911. when you work on them day in you get to know these cars back the front. i am very lucky.
My dad can remember when they were delivered back in the day, new at Porsche and the tanks were white. i would say they do still make the tanks out of the same material. even brand new ones go yellow over time
10-12-2009, 11:46 AM
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LOL people are so sensitve on this forum!!!! Everyone grow some thicker skin!!!!! ayarrrg.
And in regards to having a pretty coolant tank....this IS the 25 year old UNDERDOG porsche. In my personal opinion making the new guys in boxters and caymans and 911's feel bad at the autocross is MUCH more enjoyable when the car looks like ****.
Then you grin at them and pop the hood, revealing old worn out and yellowed parts and you tell them, yeah she's old, but she still drives younger than you do grandpa!
And in regards to having a pretty coolant tank....this IS the 25 year old UNDERDOG porsche. In my personal opinion making the new guys in boxters and caymans and 911's feel bad at the autocross is MUCH more enjoyable when the car looks like ****.
Then you grin at them and pop the hood, revealing old worn out and yellowed parts and you tell them, yeah she's old, but she still drives younger than you do grandpa!
10-12-2009, 12:16 PM
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$142 isn't cheap to me! (are those AU $$?)
But my concern is more that the tanks may get brittle and split with age. VW tanks of the same era rarely last this long and appear to be the same material. I agree with the theory of continuing demand for 944 parts, as long as the prices are reasonable. These cars are unusual in that the OEM parts are still largely available, not just crappy chinese repro's.
But my concern is more that the tanks may get brittle and split with age. VW tanks of the same era rarely last this long and appear to be the same material. I agree with the theory of continuing demand for 944 parts, as long as the prices are reasonable. These cars are unusual in that the OEM parts are still largely available, not just crappy chinese repro's.
10-12-2009, 12:32 PM
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Burning Brakes
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I agree with replacing worn out parts with new. Replacing a functioning coolant tank only for aesthetics is why many new Porsche owners get the stereotype they do...Besides, I need that $142 for my meth addiction...
10-12-2009, 04:02 PM
#26
Why fix your 944? They are cheap cars to replace so crack open your wallet and buy a new one.
Better yet, support Porsche and buy a new model from your nearest dealership
Better yet, support Porsche and buy a new model from your nearest dealership
10-12-2009, 04:04 PM
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they are very cheap, pelican sell them for $142US. im not sure you could make one for that much. you could try though. we are actually lucky that porsche still sell these as a spare part. many car manufacturers stop producing parts past 4 years. it really comes down to supply and demand. if we continue to buy parts for these cars from porsche they will continue to make them. as soon as they see a part as not making much money they will stop making it.
At any rate, if you check old photos such as the 1989 951 engine photo on page 284 of the book 'PORSCHE' by Lucinda Lewis, you'll see what I mean by the original tanks being a 'plastic' color that is not bleached white.
If you've been around Porsches your whole life you can appreciate the value of original condition and parts in any car that nears classic status. I strive to keep mine as original as possible but find that often replacing parts with new doesn't accomplish this. If BlackOp has found a way to freshen up these tanks and keep the original part in the car, I think that's definitely worth considering. YMMV
10-12-2009, 04:57 PM
#28
Drifting
the tank is made by the same supplier as it was back in the day when new. im not concerned about supporting porsche... these days they are an accounting company not a auto manufacturer. the quality of components are unfortunately not what they use to be.
that supplier can stop making these components if the demand is not high enough. most parts were on contract to be made over a specific number of years(lets say 10 years). after that it is up to the supplier if they wish to make more. paragon/pelican and such companies in most cases buy directly from the suppliers that porsche do.
I realise Luis that you want to keep your turbo cab in its best original condition but in a way you are throwing money away with some parts you buy directly from porsche.
I was just looking at some photos in the original porsche brochure and the tank is white in these photos. i guess it comes down to the camera and lighting they were using. but i can assure you they were white.
that supplier can stop making these components if the demand is not high enough. most parts were on contract to be made over a specific number of years(lets say 10 years). after that it is up to the supplier if they wish to make more. paragon/pelican and such companies in most cases buy directly from the suppliers that porsche do.
I realise Luis that you want to keep your turbo cab in its best original condition but in a way you are throwing money away with some parts you buy directly from porsche.
I was just looking at some photos in the original porsche brochure and the tank is white in these photos. i guess it comes down to the camera and lighting they were using. but i can assure you they were white.
10-12-2009, 05:10 PM
#29
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LOL, that's some funny stuff right there.I could have a new Porsche if I so desired, but I don't want one. I have too many other life interests to drop that kinda scratch on a rapidly depreciating object.
However my time is valuable. I really don't want to spend hours working on throwing money into trying to polish the turd that is the yellowed overflow tank. $142 is cheap IMHO.
