951Badger

The Boss just got a 2000 Boxster "S" Tiptronic and says he'll smoke my '88 chipped (Autothority Stage II) 944 Turbo.

Do you think he's right? I don't think he is...

nickhance

I don't think he's right.... I ran into a Boxster S around here a while back and he wasn't able to shake me

ribs

No...you'll beat him easily...off the line, at speed, whatever. My '86 951 with chips (APE stage II) and a 3" cat back exhaust consistantly got 5.15 sec 0-60 runs w/ a full tank of gas and a passenger...I don't remember the 0-60 on a boxter S tip, but I doubt it runs to 60 in less than 6 seconds. Thats just off the line...at speed (70-100) you would slaughter him because of your gobbs of torque.

Steve Lavigne

FYI, a 6 speed Boxster S did something like 230 peak rwhp at the Seattle dyno day.

Deepice

88 Turbo S 2998 Lbs., 247 HP, Power to Weight 12.14

2000 boxster S 2854 lbs., 250 HP, Power to weight 11.42

with that info I would have to say its going to come down to the driver.

The tiptronic is very quick and good low end torque but I do not know what the parasitic loss is for the boxster S tiptronic Vrs the Turbo S.

The tiptronic is real good at hiding poor drivers

I think you will find the Boxter S a formatible player.

Honestly I don't see a clear winner.

ninefiveone

Boxster S doesn't stand a chance when it comes to acceleration. The HP number is the wrong number to look at. It comes down to torque and a chipped 944 turbo puts out at least 280-290 ft/lbs to the boxsterS's 225-ish ft/lbs. A chipped turboS should out more.

Deepice

[quote]Originally posted by ninefiveone:
<strong> It comes down to torque and a chipped 944 turbo puts out at least 280-290 ft/lbs to the boxsterS's 225-ish ft/lbs. A chipped turboS should out more.</strong><hr></blockquote>

but isn't that very high up in the RPM range?

my manual put the 944 Turbo at 250 ft Lbs

Boxster S at 225 lbs

So again I think it comes down to driver.

this is a quote from the Porsche web site


"The response from the gearbox is instantaneous, with virtually no interruption in drive. Gearshifts take around 0.2 seconds to complete - less than half the time required by a conventional automatic or manual gearbox."

and the variocam

"At medium revs, the system maximises torque for more immediate acceleration"

I could easily be wrong

AutoXdriver

[quote]Originally posted by deepice:
<strong>
my manual put the 944 Turbo at 250 ft Lbs
Boxster S at 225 lbs
</strong><hr></blockquote>


ninefiveone was comparing the Boxter S to a chipped 951, not stock like what the manual is quoting so 280-290 ft/lbs sounds reasonably accurate.

Deepice

I just re-read the question and his boss used the word "smoke". So I change my statement to "absolutly not"

951Badger

What about the numbers I've read? Boxster S Tiptronic 0-60 is quoted at about 6.4 seconds (Taken from official Porsche website).
My chipped 951 is probably somewhere around 5.4 or so.

That sound right too?

Deepice

The question in my mind is what is the definition of "Smoking" another car ? beating it by 1 sec, 2 sec, 3 sec?

I would think a 2003 911 Turbo or GT 2 is an example of a car that can "smoke" us. NOT A BOXSTER S

Robby

I've been seing a LOT of people quoting Turbo S's at 250TQ lately, when the real # was 258- if anything, the TQ to power ratio 258:247 is better in real life than in the regular ones- a WELL preserved Turbo S putws down some 215 - 220HP and 230 - 235TQ- Thijs being the case, if the HP
# really is 247 at the flywheel, then the TQ may have normally been a hair higher the 258 even- at any rate, the question WAS about a chipped turbo vs the Boxster- don't know what the Boxster S really weighs, but it's definately over 3000lbs- I'd have to look it up, but I think I saw a hair under 3200 recently, while a 951 (at least an S or a loaded regular) weighs ~3150. Unless that Boxster is a really good example, then a chipped Turbo shouldn't have any trouble taking it assuming driver skill is relatively close- now handling could be another matter- variables from hell...

Joe944

Using the term "smoke" can mean just beating you by a little bit, depends on what the person actually meant.

I say go for it, and hand it to him =D

Deepice

[quote]Originally posted by Robby:
<strong> don't know what the Boxster S really weighs, but it's definately over 3000lbs- I'd have to look it up, but I think I saw a hair under 3200 ...</strong><hr></blockquote>

the porsche web site puts the boxster S at at 2998 Lbs

944Fest (aka Dan P)

Ummm, lets not forget the Boxster is n/a, correct? We'll be spooling up while he darts off the line with his low down power curve. It'll be our job to run them down as the power spools up with the revs. My 340HP is a dog off the line, I couldn't/wouldn't jump anyone or anything off a standing start. Going from 20 to 120 is whole 'nother story...

I say the boxster jumps you off the line, the gap stops at the top of first, you hit second and start gaining, and pass him handily as the needle swings thru 80 and say bye bye. It sounds exciting, doesn't it?

FWIW&lt; I've never had a boxster hang with me down the back straight of Mid-Ohio. 930's maybe, but Boxsters, nope.