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Old 08-19-2009, 12:22 AM
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Default The time has come... solid lifters!!!

So I am making an investment for some solid lindsey racing lifters...
I need some help here. First off I am putting these in with my webb cam. Is there anything particular I need to do when I install these bad boys? Or just Lube up and slide in. (gigity gigity goo)
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"The "TOTAL" Solid Lifter Conversion requires the customer to send their cylinder head and cam box to us. When doing a solid lifter conversion, it's very important that the height of the valve tips above the top of the cylinder head are set to a specific height. So part of the TOTAL conversion includes us doing that work to your cylinder head. If you need some cylinder head work done at the same time, such as our Stage 1 thru 5 offerings, it's the perfect time to do it.

Once the valves are tipped, and the cam box has the access port plug holes machined, we do a complete assembly of the head, lifter, lash caps and new cam. After assembly, we do a cold lash check and verify the dimensions. We then determine if any of the lash caps need to be thicker or thinner to achieve the perfect lash. The assembly will be torn down, lash caps swapped if necessary, and everything re-assenbled. We will do this as many times as necessary until we get the exact lash we are looking for.

This allows the customer to simply assemble the head and cam box on their engine knowing as long as they put all the pieces in the correct location as identified by us, they can be insured that everything is clearanced properly.

This TOTAL package is priced at $1150.00. This DOES NOT include a camshaft. We can use your stock cam, or provide you a solid grind cam. We have 6 profiles in stock and can grind something custom tailored to your specs if required.

You cannot purchase the TOTAL package through the shopping cart since you're sending us your cores to modify, or purchasing cores from us. Contact your Lindsey Racing representative for more information."

Do it yourself?

For those who have a machine shop available to them with the capabilities to set the valve tip height, you can purchase the required parts and do it yourself. You may be required to purchase additional lash caps once you do your first bench assembly and test the lash, or grind the provided lash caps to complete the job. Not knowing whether you're going to need thinner or thicker caps prevents us from knowing up front.
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please explain more on the lash? I was under the idea that an over head cam like this didnt need valve adjustment. I was looking at a couple different sets and just figured I would get the lindsey cause everyone has good stuff to say about them. Why can I not just put them in as is and run them? What difference are they in height than factory because webb told me to use a new set of factory and it would be fine. I am kinda confused? I didnt realise it was that complicated...
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Originally Posted by Cone_eater
please explain more on the lash? I was under the idea that an over head cam like this didnt need valve adjustment. I was looking at a couple different sets and just figured I would get the lindsey cause everyone has good stuff to say about them. Why can I not just put them in as is and run them? What difference are they in height than factory because webb told me to use a new set of factory and it would be fine. I am kinda confused? I didnt realise it was that complicated...
Hydraulic lifters dont need adjusted, your car has them now, you would remove them to swap to solid lifters, which would then require valve lash adjustment..

Solid lifters require machining work to the head and cam tower to work...
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nah, factory doesn't need adjustment because the lifters are hydraulic, but solid lifter OHC engines definitely need precise lash adjustments. I'm not sure what the specs are exactly on the Lindsey kit, but on a Yamaha R6 engine I worked on the spec was .11mm +/- .05mm. Granted, that engine was designed for 15k RPM, but that should still give you an idea of the tolerances required for solid lifters.

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So if I just put them in I am gonna screw **** up. lol. Nice, I really hate pulling the head on these...
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Originally Posted by Cone_eater
So if I just put them in I am gonna screw **** up. lol. Nice, I really hate pulling the head on these...
I think you need to sit down and do some serious research. It sounds like you are starting a project a few thousand feet over your head.

Usually when someone is building a motor that requires solid lifters they at least know why solid lifters are needed. You don't even know what solid lifters are compared to stock.

Why do you need solids? Is this motor going to be built for 7,000+ rpm power?
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If all you're doing is a web cam theres no reason for solid lifters.
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i want pics of the build / fail
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i want pics of the build / fail
Just a suggestion....

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Ok, that was funny.

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Originally Posted by Cone_eater
So I am making an investment for some solid lindsey racing lifters.
Why do you think you need, or, want them? I have been down this road, especially with the LR products so I know their solid lifter kit very well. Please enlighten us, so we can assist you much better, as this isn't a cheap investment, and there will be maintenance involved.

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From what I have seen here, you should not do solid lifters.

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The lifters being hydraulic is a good thing for all but the most serious racers.

As the valves/seats are worn the hydraulic lifter adjusts the valve clearance automatically. You do not want to get rid of this brilliant invention unless there is a real need for it. Very high revving engines (motorcycle engines etc.) will get trouble using hydraulic lifters and thus have too use the "old" style which includes the need to service the system by adjusting the valve clearances regularly.


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