JohnKoaWood

Yup... M44.43/44 has it..

http://dcauto.gotdns.com/illustration/index/455128330

drift a 944

I call dibs on the mirrors, door handles, and spoiler!

I plan on upgrading my N/A brakes to factory 968 brakes very soon so I'll try to inform you whether its a direct bolt on upgrade or if it will require swapping most of the suspension like Van said. I believe the spindles are different where the brakes mount to (although I'm hoping not) but we'll see. Shouldn't be a big deal though.

JimV8

I didn't realize there was a kit. Thats outstanding.

josephsc

FWIW, it sounds to me like you're tackling three major projects simultaneously.
* Auto->na conversion
* 968 motor swap
* 968 tranny swap
Each of these projects have taken people on this forum multiple weekends to complete -- to do all three is very very far from a weekend project.

Each one of these projects have been done and you'll find documentations if you search this forum. Each of these projects also have lots of headaches to worry about as well.

Chads996

Yes.

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Chads996

Listen to the man - he knows what he speaks.

My 968 swap (just the swap) took 6 months. But that was drawn out a bit. Like can be done in 4-5 weeks.

Notes for consideration - 968 motors into anything earlier than a 1989 S2 can be a hassle electrically. The 3.0L cars are a bit easier to swap as most of the stuff needed is already there. the best ones to swap are the 1990-1991 S2's. 90% of all the bits needed are already there. Including wiring harnesses, etc.

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oazix

im planning on a couple of months. i want it to be done right and look good when im done. i'm considering pulling the engine apart and going over it before putting it in.

oazix

with the electrical, cant i just take the whole bit from the 968 being as ill have the whole thing there anyway?

xsboost90

two points...

why not sell the n/a and fix the rear end of the 968?

i swapped a turbo motor into an s2 cab in one week when others said it would be at least a month- and the car ran flawlessly for two years afterward. So dont take every timeframe as set in stone.

oazix

i would but the 968 doesnt have a title, its a insurance sale so the price was right but depending on the damage i'll have to see what is still good on the car to use. from the pics it doesnt look that bad

Chads996

Here's what you need (search too, there are plenty of threads documenting this).

- 968 engine harness
- 968 ECU (manual is different from auto)
- 944S2 crank pulley / damper (if you go without the dual mass flywheel)
- 968 torque tube (if you intend on keeping the 968 transaxle)
- S2 bell housing (if you use a traditional 944 torque tube)
- S2 crank trigger bracket - use w/ 968 crank trigger (if you use the S2's bellhousing)

Electrical issues to contend with:

Passenger footwell harness compatibility
Engine bay harness compatibility (just the right of the brake booster)
AC deletion (due to compatibility)

The wiring of the early cars are much different and will require more wiring knowledge to wire up properly. The '86-89 cars are similar, but the harnesses are different. The 1990 and newer are much easier to wire up.

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oazix

Finally starting the swap tomorrow morning cant wait should be a challenge, wish me luck.

83 944

Good luck! pics!!!!

oazix

forgot to bring the camera, but i'll be back at it Monday. Adfter about 5hrs the engine is about ready to come out. seems like it took forever to get there but not to bad for doing it myself. clarks garage is an awesome resource.

J Berk

Why not just part everything and buy Chad's car !