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07-08-2003, 12:21 PM
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well, just shipped the old V1 off for the upgrade, they actually just send you an entire new unit with all the cords..etc...
Pretty cool.
Looking forward to this!
Hope the turnaround is fast, sent it overnight and paid for overnight back to me.
Pretty cool.
Looking forward to this!
Hope the turnaround is fast, sent it overnight and paid for overnight back to me.
07-08-2003, 12:34 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by tlynch99:
<strong>also remember that Mike Valentine helped found Escort and then left that company and started Valentine Research!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Mike Valentine is also a big Porsche enthusiast and he occasionally shows up on the Rennlist forums.
<strong>also remember that Mike Valentine helped found Escort and then left that company and started Valentine Research!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Mike Valentine is also a big Porsche enthusiast and he occasionally shows up on the Rennlist forums.
07-08-2003, 12:41 PM
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Hey maybe we can get a group buy discount. <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" />
I know I'm planning on getting one but I can't decide between new or used. Maybe 20-30 bucks off would make up my mind for me.
I know I'm planning on getting one but I can't decide between new or used. Maybe 20-30 bucks off would make up my mind for me.
07-08-2003, 02:58 PM
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This is what we got last time we tried a group buy:
Dear Sir:
Thanks for your email. We appreciate your compliments concerning the V1. We
do not have any volume discounts or group buy
special pricing. You might be interested in our returned V1's, which we get
back within the 30-day trial period. They are fully
warranted and go out with all new accessories. The price is $359 plus
shipping.
You can call 800-331-3030 for more information on them.
Cordially,
Pete Kaufman
Sales Department
Dear Sir:
Thanks for your email. We appreciate your compliments concerning the V1. We
do not have any volume discounts or group buy
special pricing. You might be interested in our returned V1's, which we get
back within the 30-day trial period. They are fully
warranted and go out with all new accessories. The price is $359 plus
shipping.
You can call 800-331-3030 for more information on them.
Cordially,
Pete Kaufman
Sales Department
07-09-2003, 01:28 PM
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Marc,
Hmm, thanks for the heads up on that. Keeps me from wasting my time on writing a big formal "come on give em to us for cheaper" letter.
Their proposed option doesn't sound too bad but I just know I'd get the one some monkey dropped and shipped back. It would still work. but only half as good. Thus leaving me with a $360 false sense of security. <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" />
John
Hmm, thanks for the heads up on that. Keeps me from wasting my time on writing a big formal "come on give em to us for cheaper" letter.
Their proposed option doesn't sound too bad but I just know I'd get the one some monkey dropped and shipped back. It would still work. but only half as good. Thus leaving me with a $360 false sense of security. <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" />
John
07-09-2003, 03:06 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Magown:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Ag951:
<strong> I did a bit of research and the Valentine is considered one step below an Escort 8500. The Escort can detect more frequencies of radar, and is invisible to detector detectors (useful if you drive through VA or DC), but the Valentine has the front and rear detection. Also the 8500 is $299 vs. $399 for the Valentine. Tough choice.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Ag951, please show us the research that proves that the V1 is 1 step below the Passport 8500. I would love to read it. Or was that a typo.
Escorts ads are so lame, I believe their latest one shows that their detector was rated #1 by Forbes. LOL. <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> Who ever said their was truth in advertising.
The V1 is the only way to go. I've had one for 3 years.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><a href="http://www.1-radar-laser-jammers-detectors.com/radar-detectors.html" target="_blank">Here's the site.</a> It was the first one I found. But the others I read from more reputable sites (like the car & driver link on the first page) favor the valentine, so it looks like the better product. (I especially like it's huge rear detection area).
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Ag951:
<strong> I did a bit of research and the Valentine is considered one step below an Escort 8500. The Escort can detect more frequencies of radar, and is invisible to detector detectors (useful if you drive through VA or DC), but the Valentine has the front and rear detection. Also the 8500 is $299 vs. $399 for the Valentine. Tough choice.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Ag951, please show us the research that proves that the V1 is 1 step below the Passport 8500. I would love to read it. Or was that a typo.
Escorts ads are so lame, I believe their latest one shows that their detector was rated #1 by Forbes. LOL. <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> Who ever said their was truth in advertising.
The V1 is the only way to go. I've had one for 3 years.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><a href="http://www.1-radar-laser-jammers-detectors.com/radar-detectors.html" target="_blank">Here's the site.</a> It was the first one I found. But the others I read from more reputable sites (like the car & driver link on the first page) favor the valentine, so it looks like the better product. (I especially like it's huge rear detection area).
07-09-2003, 04:58 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Ben Plaisted:
<strong>Does the V1 Jam radar? Say like for that "Instant on" radar will the V1 jam it or not?. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I'm no law student but I think that's illegal, although it can be done.
V1 and Escort are radar "detectors".
Maybe you were kidding? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
<strong>Does the V1 Jam radar? Say like for that "Instant on" radar will the V1 jam it or not?. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I'm no law student but I think that's illegal, although it can be done.
V1 and Escort are radar "detectors".
Maybe you were kidding? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
07-09-2003, 05:07 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by P944forScott:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Ben Plaisted:
<strong>Does the V1 Jam radar? Say like for that "Instant on" radar will the V1 jam it or not?. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I'm no law student but I think that's illegal, although it can be done.
V1 and Escort are radar "detectors".
Maybe you were kidding? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">There's no such thing as a commercially available jammer that actually works, is there? That's what I've heard.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Ben Plaisted:
<strong>Does the V1 Jam radar? Say like for that "Instant on" radar will the V1 jam it or not?. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I'm no law student but I think that's illegal, although it can be done.
V1 and Escort are radar "detectors".
Maybe you were kidding? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">There's no such thing as a commercially available jammer that actually works, is there? That's what I've heard.
07-09-2003, 05:18 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Peckster:
<strong>There's no such thing as a commercially available jammer that actually works, is there? That's what I've heard.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I don't think so... I'm a tech so I hear about electronic devices that are *ahem* outside the law.
<strong>There's no such thing as a commercially available jammer that actually works, is there? That's what I've heard.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I don't think so... I'm a tech so I hear about electronic devices that are *ahem* outside the law.
07-09-2003, 05:50 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by johne:
<strong>Marc,
Hmm, thanks for the heads up on that. Keeps me from wasting my time on writing a big formal "come on give em to us for cheaper" letter.
Their proposed option doesn't sound too bad but I just know I'd get the one some monkey dropped and shipped back. It would still work. but only half as good. Thus leaving me with a $360 false sense of security. <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" />
John</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I would bet that they check them out pretty well before sending to a new customer.
<strong>Marc,
Hmm, thanks for the heads up on that. Keeps me from wasting my time on writing a big formal "come on give em to us for cheaper" letter.
Their proposed option doesn't sound too bad but I just know I'd get the one some monkey dropped and shipped back. It would still work. but only half as good. Thus leaving me with a $360 false sense of security. <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" />
John</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I would bet that they check them out pretty well before sending to a new customer.
07-09-2003, 06:51 PM
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I had asked my dad (a former B-52 electronic warfare officer) about jammers, and he said that they won't likely work. I forget the exact reason, but I think it had something to do with jammers having to specifically and actively target the radar in order to jam it. In other words, you can't have a "zone of no radar" around you...
Anywho, I could be wrong with the reasoning, plus jamming SA-2s isn't really the same as jamming police radar, so...
BB.
Anywho, I could be wrong with the reasoning, plus jamming SA-2s isn't really the same as jamming police radar, so...
BB.
07-09-2003, 07:42 PM
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I suppose you could mount a few HARM missiles to the roof.
Now THAT will keep the smokies away! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
Little expensive though...
Now THAT will keep the smokies away! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
Little expensive though...
07-09-2003, 08:11 PM
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Jammers are perfectly legal...in some states.
They're illegal near an airport anywhere in the US.
Jammers for police radar aren't the same as jammers for military aircraft, that sort of jamming would be difficult (although you can get radar absorbant bras and paint).
When an anti-cop jammer gets a radar signal, it produces a return signal that is doppler shifted from the original in such a way that it makes the radar gun register 250mph. Then a millisecond later, it produces a signal that translates to 40mph, etc. The true radar signal from the gun is drowned out by these sporadic false readings, so the gun registers no speed. Once you get close to the cop, the true signal is so powerful that it drowns out your false signals, and the gun shows an accurate number.
If using something like that, I'd suggest mounting the transmitters in your bumpers, because an active radar emitter is not exactly healthy. Remember all the cop cancer cases from early radar guns?
They're illegal near an airport anywhere in the US.
Jammers for police radar aren't the same as jammers for military aircraft, that sort of jamming would be difficult (although you can get radar absorbant bras and paint).
When an anti-cop jammer gets a radar signal, it produces a return signal that is doppler shifted from the original in such a way that it makes the radar gun register 250mph. Then a millisecond later, it produces a signal that translates to 40mph, etc. The true radar signal from the gun is drowned out by these sporadic false readings, so the gun registers no speed. Once you get close to the cop, the true signal is so powerful that it drowns out your false signals, and the gun shows an accurate number.
If using something like that, I'd suggest mounting the transmitters in your bumpers, because an active radar emitter is not exactly healthy. Remember all the cop cancer cases from early radar guns?
07-09-2003, 10:09 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Ag951:
<strong>Jammers are perfectly legal...in some states.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Are yopu talkin about radar jammers? If so, can you give us a link to a reputable company that sells one? I'd like to see what they say about it.
<strong>Jammers are perfectly legal...in some states.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Are yopu talkin about radar jammers? If so, can you give us a link to a reputable company that sells one? I'd like to see what they say about it.