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Old 11-06-2008, 02:31 PM
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ill swap you motors.
Old 11-06-2008, 02:34 PM
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You could try drilling a hole in it and use an easy out.

You could also try drilling it out and installing a helicoil.
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Originally Posted by CPR
Mike,
I have not gotten your wing back from the paint shop, so if you wish to cancel your order let me know. I can return your money order once I receive it...there is no reason to buy this wing if you are selling your car.

I am trying to make this easy on you...let me know ASAP.

PATRICK
Sounds like you are off to establishing great customer service. Very cool.
Old 11-06-2008, 02:40 PM
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You could also try hitting the outer edge of the broken part with a chisel and slowly turn it. It takes patience but it has worked countless times for me. Once you get a little notch in it for the chisel to grip it, it really starts turning.
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could just take a day off and replace the arm...
Old 11-06-2008, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokiemon944
You could try drilling a hole in it and use an easy out.

You could also try drilling it out and installing a helicoil.
Personally, I feel the risk of drilling off center and damaging the threads in the control arm is too high. And, on a high loaded part like this, I don't think a helicoil / timecert / or other thread repair is acceptable.

Originally Posted by potent951turbo86
You could also try hitting the outer edge of the broken part with a chisel and slowly turn it. It takes patience but it has worked countless times for me. Once you get a little notch in it for the chisel to grip it, it really starts turning.
Because it's broken off below flush, there isn't a lot of room to get the chisel on it at an angle.

But I really do think welding it will work. (In case I didn't mention that!)

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Old 11-06-2008, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tifosiman
Its not good to make decisions when you are emotional. I would take a couple days to cool off and then think about it with a little clearer head. Just my two cents.
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tifosiman
Its not good to make decisions when you are emotional. I would take a couple days to cool off and then think about it with a little clearer head. Just my two cents.
good advice as usual... I was pretty steamed about it earlier. Still not sure what I'm gonna do with it but either way I'll have a few days to think about it. I really wish I spent the $8K helping pay for my tution rather then paying $8K for a massive headache

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I think he's full of crap.

The control arm (threads) is aluminum. The broken bolt is steel. They CAN'T be welded together.

The trick to doing this is to patiently build up a nub on top of the broken bolt until your nub sticks out of the hole. Then you take a large nut, put it over the nub, and weld your nub to it.

If you've achieved good penetration (run with that one, people) it'll back right out.
Didn't think about that.. good point.

Apparently when I was at school, my mom talked to some mechanic she knows, he came by checked it out, and told my mom he is 90% sure he can get it out by using a left hand bit or "3 other extractor methods" and will be coming by 7-8am... I didn't give permission for any of this but my mom trusts him and I'll be at work until 9am. Hopefully he doesn't screw it up. If this isn't successful I will decide if I'll take the trailing arm off and bring it to you or scrap the car...
Old 11-06-2008, 09:01 PM
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Trailin arm is a cinch to remove, no big deal.

Sell the car because you don't like it.

Sell the car because you want something else.

DO NOT sell the car because you are frustrated with it. You will regret it.. I did. And guess what... after selling mine for a loss, I ended up buyng another 6 months later and started all over again.
Old 11-06-2008, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
ill swap you motors.
completely rebuilt early NA motor with less than 3 years and 15,000 miles on it. balance belt is about 8000 miles old.

swap you straight up. give you 3 spare DME's and associated spare parts (~$500 worth) too.



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Old 11-06-2008, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
completely rebuilt early NA motor with less than 3 years and 15,000 miles on it. balance belt is about 8000 miles old.

swap you straight up. give you 3 spare DME's and associated spare parts (~$500 worth) too.



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Originally Posted by Mike Markota
Apparently when I was at school, my mom talked to some mechanic she knows, he came by checked it out, and told my mom he is 90% sure he can get it out by using a left hand bit or "3 other extractor methods" and will be coming by 7-8am... I didn't give permission for any of this but my mom trusts him and I'll be at work until 9am. Hopefully he doesn't screw it up. If this isn't successful I will decide if I'll take the trailing arm off and bring it to you or scrap the car...
If he damages the threads, it is my recommendation to scrap the control arm - make sure he knows that. With the load of a coil-over, I wouldn't trust any extra repair measures.

I can still come by Sunday morning on my way to Rensselaer. Just let me know one way or the other.

If the drilling is NOT successful - and especially if there is a broken extractor in the broken bolt, welding will no longer be an option...
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ill trade my car or maybe we can work somthing out with swapping in some of my stock parts and me buying the aftermarket stuff. ill do the work.
Old 11-06-2008, 10:59 PM
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does it have ABS?
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look mike. Just walk away for a few days. Its not a good idea to make decisions like this when you are emotional. No one understands you're pain more than fellow 951 owners. These cars are brutally expensive.

There is no other car that I know of that you can get in for 5k and spend 5k in maintance/mods the first month of ownership. Its just rediculous. I would tell anyone looking to properly own a 951 needs 15k to really give themselves a cushion and keep the car running regardless of what breaks or needs work.

Just take a few days. You have ALOT of time and money in the car and to walk away now would mean it was all for naught. Let your rennlist breathren help you. Just take a break for awhile. I myself let my car sit for a year because i was tired of messing with it(money is #$%). Now deciding to get back into it and 20 thousand dollers later I hear you man I really do.

Just take a minute and then ask yourself if you are really wiling to let it go.


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