Notices
924/931/944/951/968 Forum Porsche 924, 924S, 931, 944, 944S, 944S2, 951, and 968 discussion, how-to guides, and technical help. (1976-1995)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Price of radiators

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-24-2003, 05:25 PM
  #1  
JimV8
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
JimV8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Ontario
Posts: 26,362
Received 495 Likes on 354 Posts
Post Price of radiators

my 85.5 NA runs hot when I push it and after checking the sensor for correct resistance, new pump and thermostat last year and power vented the system, no change. The rad was replace last year with one from a parts car and the flow test was good, but, I was told today that even if it flowed OK if there was a blockage that it would adversely effect heat transfer and that is most likely the problem. So, any ideas on the price of a new rad? Also I saw a neat way to fill the cooling system, guaranteed no air. the system uses a vacuum to draw the air out and then the fluid is drawn into the vacuum. I was told thats how new cars are filled at the factory.
Old 05-24-2003, 05:39 PM
  #2  
Matt O.
Addict
Rennlist
Lifetime Member

 
Matt O.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: wind-swept heights...
Posts: 10,835
Received 79 Likes on 35 Posts
Post

Blockage would definitely adversely effect heat dissipation.

Everyone seems to say that above the first white bar is OK for our cars, but I have always differed.

I got a new water pump, temp switch, new hoses, use dex-cool and redline water wetter, and a new radiator from Paragon Products.com. It was $279, but since then my temp mark has NEVER gone above white, even on the hottest of days, and normally stays about a bar width below it.

A new radiator will do wonders, I think.

BTW, venting the system is easy as pie, so don't purchase anything special for it. Follow the steps on <a href="http://www.clarks-garage.com" target="_blank">www.clarks-garage.com</a> and you'll be OK. Very easy to do.

Again, to answer question, a new radiator when I got it from Paragon Products.com was $279.

-Matt
Old 05-24-2003, 07:30 PM
  #3  
JimV8
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
JimV8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Ontario
Posts: 26,362
Received 495 Likes on 354 Posts
Post

Thanks Matt. Finding a Rad pressure guage was a treat. My parts place gave me a blank look, the NAPA people said sure $150 CDN. Finally borrowed it from a guy I know that has a local garage. I think cooling has to be very important for our cars so I think I'll go for a new rad, price seems reasonable and install based on Clarks Garage sounds simple enough.
Old 05-24-2003, 07:52 PM
  #4  
Matt O.
Addict
Rennlist
Lifetime Member

 
Matt O.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: wind-swept heights...
Posts: 10,835
Received 79 Likes on 35 Posts
Post

Definitely.

You can vent the system by turning the car on, letting it warm up, opening the vent until no more air/bubbles come out. Then tighten the vent bolt and turn the car off. Add some more water if necessary.

It is a very easy fix. While you are at it, make sure you order some radiator mounts because no doubt yours are old (they are rubber). Mine were old. The only tough part is getting the radiator in there over the mounts. Just use a large flathead to work the mounts/radiator into place. Also, while you are in there doing all that, you might as well replace all the hoses. They are cheap and the only difficult part is flushing the system (not difficult), so since you will already have it empty, might as well do that. Call Paragon Products, I think they have them all. If not, Pelican has them as well. Get the upper, lower, and there are a couple small ones that go from the resevoir to the radiator and water pump IIRC.

Honestly, you don't need a pressure tester/gauge. I borrowed one from Autozone, but when I flushed my brother's 88 944 a few weeks ago, I merely used the engine to provide the pressure. It won't hurt the car in any way to do it that way.

Also, it helps if the car is slightly elevated (the front wheels) when you vent. Make sure though when you add the coolant you are on level ground, makes it easier to read the level.

-Matt

PS
Although this picture seems odd to me because it only shows one fan, everything else is correct. It gives you an idea of how the hoses go in there, etc., etc...

<img src="http://www.pelicanparts.com/944/944_parts/944_83-85/pic4.jpg" alt=" - " />
Old 05-24-2003, 07:54 PM
  #5  
Luke
Nordschleife Master
 
Luke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis MN
Posts: 5,454
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Post

try overnight radiator.com I think that's it?!?!

they had my 4000s radiator for 170 when everybody wanted 360.
Old 05-24-2003, 08:51 PM
  #6  
indiana_86_944_turbo
Instructor
 
indiana_86_944_turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Fort wayne,indiana
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

has anybody changed out a radiator? are they that hard? i have done it to other cars,but not a car this small.

s.t.
Old 05-24-2003, 09:30 PM
  #7  
Matt O.
Addict
Rennlist
Lifetime Member

 
Matt O.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: wind-swept heights...
Posts: 10,835
Received 79 Likes on 35 Posts
Post

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by indiana_86_944_turbo:
<strong>has anybody changed out a radiator? are they that hard? i have done it to other cars,but not a car this small.

s.t.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">ST,

I guess you didn't see, but yeah I changed mine. If you've done it in other cars, you can do it in the 944. I had never done any radiators before I did my 944 and it was very straightforward. Comes out the bottom... you'll need to jack the car up a bit to have clearance. Installation is the hardest part, that is, getting the radiator back in place with the new rubber mounts. Just requires a little muscle and inginuity.

Good luck,
Matt
Old 05-24-2003, 09:39 PM
  #8  
Bruce '89 s2
Racer
 
Bruce '89 s2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: North West Highlands - Scotland
Posts: 307
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

Hey Matt Olde - that was a bloody marvelous post - so comprehensive - this is a fabulous site for us ignoramuses.
Old 05-24-2003, 09:49 PM
  #9  
triscadek
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
triscadek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: R-U-N-N-O-F-T
Posts: 2,590
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

Vertex has an ad in Excellence $190 for a new radiator.
Old 05-24-2003, 10:07 PM
  #10  
Tom Carson
Burning Brakes
 
Tom Carson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: new york
Posts: 1,141
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Bruce '89 s2:
<strong>this is a fabulous site for us ignoramuses.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">that why we all love this place <img border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" title="" src="graemlins/drink.gif" />
Old 05-24-2003, 10:54 PM
  #11  
Matt O.
Addict
Rennlist
Lifetime Member

 
Matt O.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: wind-swept heights...
Posts: 10,835
Received 79 Likes on 35 Posts
Post

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Bruce '89 s2:
<strong>Hey Matt Olde - that was a bloody marvelous post - so comprehensive - this is a fabulous site for us ignoramuses.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Bruce, thanks. You made me smile because as I read your post my mind's ear read it with a scottish accent.

The really great part is that I'm about a 1.1 on a scale of 1-10 on how smart many of the folks on Rennlist are!!!
Old 05-25-2003, 12:38 AM
  #12  
ELLSSUU
Geaux Tigers!
Rennlist Member
 
ELLSSUU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 9,037
Received 41 Likes on 30 Posts
Post

Radiator.com is $4 cheaper than Paragon. Jason's worth the extra Big Mac Value Meal.
Old 05-25-2003, 07:46 AM
  #13  
JSW
Track Day
 
JSW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

I had a new one installed by my mechanic for less than $500.

89S2-For Sale!
Old 05-25-2003, 09:17 AM
  #14  
indiana_86_944_turbo
Instructor
 
indiana_86_944_turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Fort wayne,indiana
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by JSW:
<strong>I had a new one installed by my mechanic for less than $500.

89S2-For Sale!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">did you supply the new one or did that include the raditor?

s.t.
Old 05-25-2003, 01:13 PM
  #15  
Matt O.
Addict
Rennlist
Lifetime Member

 
Matt O.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: wind-swept heights...
Posts: 10,835
Received 79 Likes on 35 Posts
Post

I'm tellin' ya guys, it's a DIY job. If MATT can do it, seriously, anyone here can do it. Clarks Garage provides awesome instructions, just follow them, and you'll surprise yourself at what you can do. Don't pay $220 in labor (unless of course you make so much money an hour your time is better spent working).

But don't not do it because you don't think you can. It's very easy to do.

-Matt


Quick Reply: Price of radiators



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 01:25 PM.