tod84944

Another reason not to pry at it. There is a dowel on each end. If you pry on one end, the dowel coould break a piece of the head off!!! Trust me on that one........

nh7cy

ok so new plan, drill, if no go, hammer on a socket, if no go.. SAWZALL!! hooah!

nh7cy

will that fit inside the 1/2" or so hole in the camshaft housing?

indefactorX

Is it possibly in an area that you can take a dremmel and Etch a Slot in the bolt to use a Flat head screwdriver to get it out???

I've never done this type of work on a motor, but i have done something similar, Dremmels come in alot of handy

And the flat head has enough surface area and torque to get that bolt out(or should)

Hope this helps

nh7cy

the opening to the camshaft housing is about the size of a nickel, the bolt is located about 4-5 inches beyond that. other than that hole, there is no other way to get at it. so its either chop a hole in the cam housing, or get at the bolt some other way.

Cass944

i always use a hand impact (the kind you hit on the back end with a hammer) to get those bolts out.

billthe3

There is no way a flat head screwdriver could get one of these bolts out with a dremel cut groove. They are a super PITA.

I've got one of those bolt-out sets you could borrow if you wanted. If nothing else, I could at least go measure to see if it would fit into the cam housing.

tod84944

When taking out hex bolts, or cheese head bolts, always..... tap the socket into the bolt before trying to remove. This sets the allen, or cheese head into the bolt completely

nh7cy

thanks for the advice on tapping the thing in.. wish i had done that before the stripped bolts etc.. blah..

bill, if you can see if the bolt extractor fits that would be great. i just discovered (well more like remembered) that there was a sears just a few miles from my house WHEEE!!

i was also thinking that if those dont fit i can always buy the one's that come in the form of drill attachments and use my trusty super torquey, if you hold on too tight it will break your wrist, drill thingy.

heres the link just to spark your interest.

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=Yes

billthe3

I don't have this exact set, but its the same socket idea.
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...cemldffidfko.0

I went and test fitted the bolt out things and it unfortunatly does not fit into the housing. It felt like the 13mm was the one you will want to use, as 12mm was too small to get any amount of the hex bolt into the socket. Unfortunatly the 13mm bolt-out socket was too wide to fit into the hole in the housing, but just barely. If you have a dremel you could probably widen the hole enough to get the socket in there. You'd most likely mess up the threads for those stupid little cap screws (there might be enough left to rethread afterwards), but you would be able to get the bolt-out socket in there and get the damn cam housing off.

Those hex-drive ones for the power drills look like they might be smaller than the 1/2 drive socket version though, so they may fit.

billthe3

Yeah, when I test fitted the piece on my cover out in the garage a couple of minutes ago it was barely larger than the hole. If you could ground away at the hole to make it larger by maybe 1/8th an inch you could probably fit the socket in.





Oh, one thing that I should point out. If you are planning on getting the cam cover painted or powdercoated, you will need to pull the gear off the cam to diassemble the housing completely. It is a hell of a lot easier to get the cam gear off the cam while the housing is still in place rather than after you have the housing removed from the car.

xsboost90

if you put a socket in there to hammer onto the outside of the bolt- make sure its a 12 point socket.

billthe3

^ Good point. And since craftsman tools have a lifetime warranty on them, you can just take it back to sears and get a new one if it breaks.

nh7cy

just an update, arash and i went nuts trying to get the thing out today. we tried drilling, smashing ratchet bits and such on to the bolt head. we're just going to go ahead and cut the housing off. seeing as a new housing is only $50 you can't go wrong with having a new one

Cass944

i have an extra cam housing, if your interested I'll get some pictures tonight for you.