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NEED HELP FAST.... HAVE PICTURES CANT GET DOWNPIPE OFF

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Old 04-02-2007, 06:47 PM
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Basically the thing is hooked up to every single part in your entire engine compartment in one way or another.
Old 04-02-2007, 06:53 PM
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okay now i get it... so can someone tell me what they would do i have a broken bolt on my downpipe it is sticking our about 1/4 of an inch... i need to replace all three bolts in order to put my new exhaust on...
what would you do or what can i do???
Old 04-02-2007, 06:56 PM
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Pull the turbo, pull the downpipe. Get a cheap replacement, or go 3" or drill it out in a bench vise and install new ones.
Old 04-02-2007, 07:05 PM
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okay thats what i thought but your saying i need to pull the engine in order to get the downpipe out or i need to leave the engine in and pull the turbo in order to get the downpipe out.?
Old 04-02-2007, 07:11 PM
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I never said ANYTHING about pulling the engine.
Old 04-02-2007, 07:15 PM
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okay i dont know what i was reading then. sorry. so u guess ill have to do some research, does anyone have any tips for pulling the turbo.
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and sorry about the misunderstanding mike
Old 04-02-2007, 07:40 PM
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ok im back ,i hade to finish the 993 i was working on. i would like to help but the only way i can is to have the car were my tools are . that means tow the car here. i would give you a brake on labor from 70 to 30 an hour. call if you like the offer. 203 407 1708 david
Old 04-02-2007, 07:43 PM
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http://www.clarks-garage.com/
Old 04-02-2007, 10:18 PM
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It's tough to read all these posts and figure out what you guys are saying without correct punctuation. Anyways, just pull off the top two 13mm bolts for the oil feed. If the exhaust is off already, take the 4 bolts out of the crossover to turbo, remove the two allen head bolts from the bottom and the turbo is out. Do realize that one of the crossover nuts is welded to the crossover flange, you need to turn the bolt out, not the nut on that one. Then don't tell ppl you're going to paypal them money for a Tial WG and not do it. Thanks.
Old 04-02-2007, 10:19 PM
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And if the bolt is in the side of the block at the bottom of the downpipe, pull that too.
Old 04-03-2007, 05:29 AM
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In order to get acess to the allen bolts that hold the turbo in place I had to disconnect my steering column from the rack, but it otherwise is not that hard. Basically disconnect all the oil and water lines visible from the top, and then go underneath and right above the steering column you will see a heat sheild on the bottom of the turbo mount/bracket thing. Remove the heat shield, and then you can see the two allen bolts that hold the turbo inplace. After you get those out, it should pull right out assuming everything else is disconnected.
Old 04-03-2007, 11:28 AM
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If you want it all done quickly, you might want to take David up on his offer, $30/h is a great price for a porsche mechanic!

If you want to pull the turbo yourself, I took mine out a two weekends ago with the instructions on clarks-garage and can give some pointers.
http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/eng-16.htm

It took maybe half of Sunday to get it out, not too bad actually. Spray lots of liquid wrench or the like on the bolts first. The allen head bolt connecting the downpipe flange to the block was by far the hardest one to get out.

You will probably need a 6mm allen head socket and a ratchet which has a tilting head helps a ton.

I got the two allen bolts going from the motor mount into the bottom of the turbo out without pulling the steering column by using a lot of extensions a u-joint extension then the 6mm allen socket.

I replaced the metal crush rings in the exhaust, but they're ~$20 each and a HUGE PITA to get out...i honestly spent around an hour getting one of them out. You might want to skip replacing them.

I've got my turbo back in, but the rest of the intake is in pieces still, but I've been lazy since the weather is perfect for being on a motorcycle right now.
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Damn skene you beat me too it. But heres my walk through.

To remove the downpipe you need to first remove the 3 nuts that connect it to the rest of the exhaust from below, (and the 1 bolt that mounts the downpipe to the engine for stability if its still there [this one is removed from above]). Then you can either remove the turbo with the downpipe attached by removing the 2 hex head bolts from below or attempt to remove the the 4 bolts from the turbo while its still in the car. Accessing the 2 hex head bolts can be difficult and will require a variety of extension bars, and a wobble socket. You'll also probably have to drop the steering rack down and disconnect the u - joint to get access.

Its sounds like many of the nuts/bolts in question on your car are giving you trouble. If the heads are damaged you can attempt to use a craftsman damaged nut remover kit. I've had a lot of success with it on our exhausts and when I stripped one of the turbo mounting bolts.
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i need to remove the crossover pipe too dont i?? or do i need to just remove the four bolts off the turbo and let it sit there, or do you have to remove the whole pipe
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You do not have to remove the crossover pipe. You just have to pull the 4 bolts out and let it sit there.


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