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Old 11-10-2006, 12:01 AM
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Can anyone tell me the difference, if there is any?

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I believe the 951 have a coating on the exhaust ports.

Then there's the 944S and S2 heads........
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springs? valve size?

i only question the valve size because they are sold as n/a valves and turbo valves. according to the part numbers they are different. i think...

who know
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Well, I know the exhaust valves on the turbo differ in that they are sodium-filled.
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yeah thats what i was trying to remember.

the turbo head also has a special blinker fluid reservoir
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It also comes with a direct link to your bank account.........
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Haha, thanks guys. How difficult would it be to convert a standard 2.5 to turbo using factory parts? I'm not looking for 400whp, just around 250 at the crank or so... I am mechanically skilled, just underinformed as far as 944s go. I don't even own one yet, just looking at the possibility. In fact, I just finished up swapping a 3.5 liter I-6 into my '84 BMW 325e, so really I shouldn't be looking for another car yet, but we all know how that goes!
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Hehehehehe.... ill just tell you nicely before some one yells.
Just search for the whole turbo deal. The whole process has been covered more than once.
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Originally Posted by butters
How difficult would it be to convert a standard 2.5 to turbo using factory parts?
Twice the cost for half the car. Your call.
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Originally Posted by Calmchaos
Hehehehehe.... ill just tell you nicely before some one yells.
Just search for the whole turbo deal. The whole process has been covered more than once.
+1 ....sigh....
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So... has anyone ever tried improvising? Maybe starting with a 2.5 NA motor, some factory manifolds and downpipes, custom intercooler, megasquirt and custom charge pipes? Come on guys, it can't be that hard! I know guys who have turbocharged BMW M30s for dirt cheap and make well over 300whp at 11 or 12psi! I just can not believe that it could possibly be THAT EXPENSIVE to build a turbo system and make it work... You can turbo a Mazda Miata for $800 if you keep your eye out for ebay parts and make a few pipes!!!!!
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If you want to, you can give it a try... All the information we have here has already been put down, and can be found.

If you do it, be sure to post it with plenty of pics

Good luck!!
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Originally Posted by butters
So... has anyone ever tried improvising? Maybe starting with a 2.5 NA motor, some factory manifolds and downpipes, custom intercooler, megasquirt and custom charge pipes? Come on guys, it can't be that hard! I know guys who have turbocharged BMW M30s for dirt cheap and make well over 300whp at 11 or 12psi! I just can not believe that it could possibly be THAT EXPENSIVE to build a turbo system and make it work... You can turbo a Mazda Miata for $800 if you keep your eye out for ebay parts and make a few pipes!!!!!
If u are wanting to turbocharge a na motor yes you can cause my car was .
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Originally Posted by butters
So... has anyone ever tried improvising? Maybe starting with a 2.5 NA motor, some factory manifolds and downpipes, custom intercooler, megasquirt and custom charge pipes? Come on guys, it can't be that hard! I know guys who have turbocharged BMW M30s for dirt cheap and make well over 300whp at 11 or 12psi! I just can not believe that it could possibly be THAT EXPENSIVE to build a turbo system and make it work... You can turbo a Mazda Miata for $800 if you keep your eye out for ebay parts and make a few pipes!!!!!
That's my plan. I'm installing MS over winter break to get it running N/A then add on the turbo setup. I like going against the population that says no...I'll prove them wrong I turbocharged a SOHC Ford Escort to have 220whp/280wtq on stock block and timing. Not to mention all the fab work that was needed. The 944 is a lot more of a bolt-on and tune. Hardest part is gonna be installing MS and tuning.
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The hard part will be taking the pistons out and replacing them with low compression turbo pistons. Do a search as this subject has been beaten to death. By the time you are done with the conversion (done properly) I will be surprised if you don't spend $5k on parts alone with no labor.


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