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Old 10-30-2006, 10:03 PM
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what would i need to make this work? I have an 83 motor, that I'm tearing down and I'm going to put high comp pistons in it. But I wonder if i can run the 84 DME/AFM or should i used an late DME/AFM?

Also, I hear the cam profile is different on the late cars, how hard is it to swap cams?
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put early fuel rail on and use your early dme /afm or use late rail with late DME/AFM
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Originally Posted by Mike Markota
put early fuel rail on and use your early dme /afm or use late rail with late DME/AFM
Can i use an early rail and late DME/AFM?

I dont think there is an easy way to mount a late rail on an early car, the fuel lines will have to be moved, which would be a PITA.
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yes you can use early rail and late dme/afm.. sorry wasnt thinking 100%.(and I've done this before.. late DME/AFM in my 84)

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The high compression engine has a different DME than the rest of the other years. The part number ends with a 5 instead of 1 or 2 of the early DMEs.
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Originally Posted by Legoland951
The high compression engine has a different DME than the rest of the other years. The part number ends with a 5 instead of 1 or 2 of the early DMEs.
is there any way to chip an late (non HC) dme to run like a late HC dme??
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Just find a dme from a 88, and that will work.
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Originally Posted by tod84944
Just find a dme from a 88, and that will work.
ok, I just dont know how hard they will be to find.

The reason I'm asking is i want to take every advantage of the pistons.
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87 and 88 924S use that DME also.
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Ross,
You can do alot of mixing & matching. I ran a complete 87 924S motor in my 84 chassis. Now it uses the 84 block with 87 head & injection. I even ran an 88 block in there for a bit too.
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ok joe, i think i might start swapping parts with this engine gets rebuilt.
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Originally Posted by M758
Ross,
You can do alot of mixing & matching. I ran a complete 87 924S motor in my 84 chassis. Now it uses the 84 block with 87 head & injection. I even ran an 88 block in there for a bit too.
Joe, I had heard through a local guy that 88 DME retards timing at high operating temperatures. Have you heard/do you know that? If it does, I imagine that would be less desirable for a track car. Any thoughts?
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When you swap da DME, swap Da AFM cuz like gangsta, the early cars AFM/DME setup uses a different voltage than later so you need both!
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I have an 84 engine in my 86. I used the 86 fuel rail and DME (I never removed them from the car)
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Originally Posted by mjaffe
Joe, I had heard through a local guy that 88 DME retards timing at high operating temperatures. Have you heard/do you know that? If it does, I imagine that would be less desirable for a track car. Any thoughts?

Dylan Scott keeps saying that. I have no data to confirm/deny.

My car runs with a chipped 87 DME. I ran for a few sessions with a stock 88 DME when I ran the 88 block. Seat of the pants and lap times seemed show a tiny bit more hp with chipped 87 DME so I just used that.

My 87 DME does not seem to have that issue.


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