Timing belt replacement parts
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I'm sure the answer for this question exisits somewhere in the forum, but I can't seem to find it by searching. I just got an 86k 1986 944 (NA) engine to use for a swap. As I know nothing about it, timing belt replacement will happen before anything else. Can anybody add necessary parts to this list?
Timing Belt
Timing Belt Tensioner
Balance Shaft Belt
Balance Shaft Belt Tensioner
Front Seals
Water Pump
Thermostat
Anything I'm missing? (I'm new to 944s...)
Thanks
Timing Belt
Timing Belt Tensioner
Balance Shaft Belt
Balance Shaft Belt Tensioner
Front Seals
Water Pump
Thermostat
Anything I'm missing? (I'm new to 944s...)
Thanks
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Check the oil pump sleeve and balance shaft sleeves for grooves if you are in that far... ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Don't forget the onionskins!
Possibly buy new woodruff keys for cheap while you are at it?
Rollers... need the new rollers, but not a new tensioner as a whole.
Belt tensioning is important and make sure you have the balance shafts in correct orientation.
Beer.
Good luck.
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Don't forget the onionskins!
Possibly buy new woodruff keys for cheap while you are at it?
Rollers... need the new rollers, but not a new tensioner as a whole.
Belt tensioning is important and make sure you have the balance shafts in correct orientation.
Beer.
Good luck.
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I made this list up a long time ago. There are probably some supercessions, but it will give you a good start.
944 8 VALVE FRONT ENGINE SEALS, BELTS & WATER PUMP PARTS LIST
From engine # 43F 06995 (1985) thru 1986 8 valve engines
Camshaft
1 each O-ring 999.701.602.40
1 each Woodruff key (optional) 900.117.045.00
1 each O-ring (onion skin) 944.105.321.00
1 each Spacer 928.105.139.04
1 each Seal 999.113.349.40
1 each Bolt (optional) 999.510.022.08
1 each Toothed roller 944.105.027.04
1 each Stud 944.102.216.01
1 each Nut 944.102.243.00
1 each Smooth roller (for updated pump) 944.105.241.03
1 each Rubber seal 928.105.184.00
1 each Belt 944.105.157.04
1 each Locking nut N 0221492
Crankshaft
1 each Seal 999.113.331.50
1 each Sleeve (oil pump drive) 944.107.161.02
1 each O-ring 999.707.283.40
1 each Woodruff key (optional) 900.117.036.00
Balance shafts
1 each Seal (upper, cw rotation) 999.113.282.40
1 each Seal (lower, ccw rotation) 999.113.281.40
2 each Spacer 928.105.139.02
2 each O-ring (same as cam) 944.105.321.00
2 each O-ring 999.701.652.40
2 each Woodruff key (optional) N 012.708.2
1 each Tensioner roller 944.102.025.07
1 each Smooth roller 944.102.277.06
1 each Belt 944.102.219.02
2 each Locking nuts N 0221492
Water pump
1 each Water Pump 951.106.021.10
1 each Block off plate (N/A only) 944.106.313.00
1 each O-ring 999.707.283.40
2 each Bolt 6 x 20mm N .014.704.1
2 each Washer N .011.524.7
1 each Thermostat 944.106.019.00
1 each Support Washer 900.234.160.00
1 each T-stat O-ring 944.106.929.08 or 944.106.929.05
1 each Guard rail (for updated pump) 944.105.210.01
2 each Lock nuts (for guard rail) 999.084.092.02
944 8 VALVE FRONT ENGINE SEALS, BELTS & WATER PUMP PARTS LIST
From engine # 43F 06995 (1985) thru 1986 8 valve engines
Camshaft
1 each O-ring 999.701.602.40
1 each Woodruff key (optional) 900.117.045.00
1 each O-ring (onion skin) 944.105.321.00
1 each Spacer 928.105.139.04
1 each Seal 999.113.349.40
1 each Bolt (optional) 999.510.022.08
1 each Toothed roller 944.105.027.04
1 each Stud 944.102.216.01
1 each Nut 944.102.243.00
1 each Smooth roller (for updated pump) 944.105.241.03
1 each Rubber seal 928.105.184.00
1 each Belt 944.105.157.04
1 each Locking nut N 0221492
Crankshaft
1 each Seal 999.113.331.50
1 each Sleeve (oil pump drive) 944.107.161.02
1 each O-ring 999.707.283.40
1 each Woodruff key (optional) 900.117.036.00
Balance shafts
1 each Seal (upper, cw rotation) 999.113.282.40
1 each Seal (lower, ccw rotation) 999.113.281.40
2 each Spacer 928.105.139.02
2 each O-ring (same as cam) 944.105.321.00
2 each O-ring 999.701.652.40
2 each Woodruff key (optional) N 012.708.2
1 each Tensioner roller 944.102.025.07
1 each Smooth roller 944.102.277.06
1 each Belt 944.102.219.02
2 each Locking nuts N 0221492
Water pump
1 each Water Pump 951.106.021.10
1 each Block off plate (N/A only) 944.106.313.00
1 each O-ring 999.707.283.40
2 each Bolt 6 x 20mm N .014.704.1
2 each Washer N .011.524.7
1 each Thermostat 944.106.019.00
1 each Support Washer 900.234.160.00
1 each T-stat O-ring 944.106.929.08 or 944.106.929.05
1 each Guard rail (for updated pump) 944.105.210.01
2 each Lock nuts (for guard rail) 999.084.092.02
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Here's an old posting by me of what I bought for my 968...but many of the part numbers start with 944...not sure what that means.
Harvey
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I recently ordered a bunch of parts to update many of the "wear" parts on my 1994 968. The following parts have been delivered but I've not yet installed them. In fact, I can get by and may not even need all of them but, while I'm in there, I thought "Why not?" Sooner or later they will wear out and after almost 70k miles, I might as well. Can you do a similar update cheaper? Absolutely as I'm also replacing bolts and gaskets, etc. that may still be fine. These are all Porsche parts or Porsche OEM. I just thought the list might be interesting to those of you who are looking for a listing and get confused between 944 parts lists and 968 lists. The dealer checked this list over and made some changes so I'm banking on it being accurate.
The following prices are what were charged to me on 4/28/05 and subject to change and do not include handling charges, freight/shipping, rush orders from Germany, etc (For me, that was about an additional $150.00 or so). Different dealers will have differing prices and, in some cases, there may be product quality differences. Almost all of the above parts were purchased from a Porsche dealership. No guarantees are made as to accuracy of the list. I'm not a great typist. Please double-check with the PET listings and the dealer you work with before ordering. Also, you may not want all these parts but here they are just in case. Good luck on your belt and waterpump rebuild!
These are 968 parts...but a lot of the part numbers start with 944. Not sure what that means.
Balance shaft belt (polyrib) 944 102 219 04 $81.71
Camshaft drive timing belt 944 105 232 02 $74.14
Balance shaft tensioner Roller 944 102 025 07 $16.05
Balance Tension Roller 944-102-277-06 $19.62
Tensioner stud (or oil pump?) 944 102 216 01 $4.44 (This isn’t listed as a 968 part but is a good no. for part used on 944’s. I won’t know if it fits 968 until I get in there)
Intermediate shaft O-ring 999 701 652 40 Two @ $1.97 ea
Timing belt roller 944 105 631 10 $57.21
Timing belt tensioner 944 105 172 03 $83.98
Camshaft belt tensioner roller 944 105 241 02 $27.98
Camshaft belt roller 944-105-241-04 (new number)$27.98
Camshaft oil seal #1 999 113 282 40 $15.17
Plastic camshaft seal #2 944 105 321 00 Three @ .42 ea (these are the small wafer thin gaskets, 3 needed)
Camshaft rubber oil seal #3 999 113 424 40 (30x48x7) $16.30
Camshaft rubber oil seal #4 999 113 425 40 (30x47x7) $14.85
Crankshaft seal 999 113 331 40 $10.77
Crank 0 ring 999-707-283-40 $1.91
Thermostat w/gasket 944-106-019-00 $5.10
Thermostat Thin gasket also needed 944-106-929-05 $1.07
Thermostat snap ring (Circlip) 900 042 025 01 $1.10
Thermostat O-Ring 951 106 155 00 $5.10 (Note: this is often pressed into new/rebuilt water pumps for cam tensioner
Oil Supply Tube 944-105-167-06 One @ $151.63 (I passed on this one)
Copper oil supply tube seal rings 900-123-050-30 Two @ .32 ea.
Cam chain 944-105-501-05 $22.52
Cam chain tensioner pads/guides 944-105-509-00 Two @ $19.45 ea. (these are two “uppers” that apparently are used both top and bottom by most people since the lower pad with a different number are sold only with the complete cam chain tensioner unit)
Woodruff key for balance shafts n-012-708-2 Two @ .31 ea
Woodruff key for crank shaft 900-117-036-00 .51
Bolt hex head 900-075-043-02 (M10x30) Two @ .51 ea
Bolt hex head N 010 445 2 (M10x45) .60
Locking nut 900 910 034 02 (M 10) $1.66
Washers N-011-527-12 (A 10, 5) Two @ .13 ea
Water Heater control valve 928-574-573-03 $46.42
Valve/Cam Cover rubber grommets for bolts Thirteen @ .93 each
999 707 283 40 O-ring $1.91
999 707 875 40 O-ring $1.12
999 707 078 40 O-ring $1.12
928 144 443 08 Tower Plug Gaskets Four @ $1.85 each
Valve Cover or Cam Tower Gasket $12.72
Porsche Remanufactured Waterpump Kit w/thermostat and bolts $174.87
928 106-921 XX Waterpump gasket $16.67
968 Flywheel Lock Paragon alt #000 721 920 61 $99.00
Balance shaft locking bar (tool) $44.95
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1994 968 Coupe, Black/Black, 6-Speed, 70K miles
1985 928S, Red/Black, 5-Speed, 67K miles
2002 Audi TT Turbo, Glorified Volkswagen, 20K miles
Harvey
========
I recently ordered a bunch of parts to update many of the "wear" parts on my 1994 968. The following parts have been delivered but I've not yet installed them. In fact, I can get by and may not even need all of them but, while I'm in there, I thought "Why not?" Sooner or later they will wear out and after almost 70k miles, I might as well. Can you do a similar update cheaper? Absolutely as I'm also replacing bolts and gaskets, etc. that may still be fine. These are all Porsche parts or Porsche OEM. I just thought the list might be interesting to those of you who are looking for a listing and get confused between 944 parts lists and 968 lists. The dealer checked this list over and made some changes so I'm banking on it being accurate.
The following prices are what were charged to me on 4/28/05 and subject to change and do not include handling charges, freight/shipping, rush orders from Germany, etc (For me, that was about an additional $150.00 or so). Different dealers will have differing prices and, in some cases, there may be product quality differences. Almost all of the above parts were purchased from a Porsche dealership. No guarantees are made as to accuracy of the list. I'm not a great typist. Please double-check with the PET listings and the dealer you work with before ordering. Also, you may not want all these parts but here they are just in case. Good luck on your belt and waterpump rebuild!
These are 968 parts...but a lot of the part numbers start with 944. Not sure what that means.
Balance shaft belt (polyrib) 944 102 219 04 $81.71
Camshaft drive timing belt 944 105 232 02 $74.14
Balance shaft tensioner Roller 944 102 025 07 $16.05
Balance Tension Roller 944-102-277-06 $19.62
Tensioner stud (or oil pump?) 944 102 216 01 $4.44 (This isn’t listed as a 968 part but is a good no. for part used on 944’s. I won’t know if it fits 968 until I get in there)
Intermediate shaft O-ring 999 701 652 40 Two @ $1.97 ea
Timing belt roller 944 105 631 10 $57.21
Timing belt tensioner 944 105 172 03 $83.98
Camshaft belt tensioner roller 944 105 241 02 $27.98
Camshaft belt roller 944-105-241-04 (new number)$27.98
Camshaft oil seal #1 999 113 282 40 $15.17
Plastic camshaft seal #2 944 105 321 00 Three @ .42 ea (these are the small wafer thin gaskets, 3 needed)
Camshaft rubber oil seal #3 999 113 424 40 (30x48x7) $16.30
Camshaft rubber oil seal #4 999 113 425 40 (30x47x7) $14.85
Crankshaft seal 999 113 331 40 $10.77
Crank 0 ring 999-707-283-40 $1.91
Thermostat w/gasket 944-106-019-00 $5.10
Thermostat Thin gasket also needed 944-106-929-05 $1.07
Thermostat snap ring (Circlip) 900 042 025 01 $1.10
Thermostat O-Ring 951 106 155 00 $5.10 (Note: this is often pressed into new/rebuilt water pumps for cam tensioner
Oil Supply Tube 944-105-167-06 One @ $151.63 (I passed on this one)
Copper oil supply tube seal rings 900-123-050-30 Two @ .32 ea.
Cam chain 944-105-501-05 $22.52
Cam chain tensioner pads/guides 944-105-509-00 Two @ $19.45 ea. (these are two “uppers” that apparently are used both top and bottom by most people since the lower pad with a different number are sold only with the complete cam chain tensioner unit)
Woodruff key for balance shafts n-012-708-2 Two @ .31 ea
Woodruff key for crank shaft 900-117-036-00 .51
Bolt hex head 900-075-043-02 (M10x30) Two @ .51 ea
Bolt hex head N 010 445 2 (M10x45) .60
Locking nut 900 910 034 02 (M 10) $1.66
Washers N-011-527-12 (A 10, 5) Two @ .13 ea
Water Heater control valve 928-574-573-03 $46.42
Valve/Cam Cover rubber grommets for bolts Thirteen @ .93 each
999 707 283 40 O-ring $1.91
999 707 875 40 O-ring $1.12
999 707 078 40 O-ring $1.12
928 144 443 08 Tower Plug Gaskets Four @ $1.85 each
Valve Cover or Cam Tower Gasket $12.72
Porsche Remanufactured Waterpump Kit w/thermostat and bolts $174.87
928 106-921 XX Waterpump gasket $16.67
968 Flywheel Lock Paragon alt #000 721 920 61 $99.00
Balance shaft locking bar (tool) $44.95
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1994 968 Coupe, Black/Black, 6-Speed, 70K miles
1985 928S, Red/Black, 5-Speed, 67K miles
2002 Audi TT Turbo, Glorified Volkswagen, 20K miles