MegaSquirt + 951?
#31
What are you eliminating? What product would you say is comparable?
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#32
Eliminating the DME and KLR. Compare to a $3000 Electromotive TEC-3.
And before the cat fight ensues, I am NOT saying MegaSquirt is better than TEC3 or that TEC3 is better than MegaSquirt. They are however similar products with similar purposes. Leave it at that.
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And before the cat fight ensues, I am NOT saying MegaSquirt is better than TEC3 or that TEC3 is better than MegaSquirt. They are however similar products with similar purposes. Leave it at that.
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Thanks.
#33
Just wondering what would push someone to a build it yourself system for 650 vs. a Haltech E6K for 1K or so? Since it appears the issues are the same (trigger wheels, etc) when the Haltech is a proven system?
I dont know the asnwer, which is why I am asking.
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#34
MegaSquirt is a proven system as well; there are hundreds of sucessful installs in a wide variety of platforms.
And there's no way you can call any Haltech system 'plug and play' for $1,000. To get the E6K working still requires an aftermarket crank angle sensor, $300 from Chris White or $510 from Clewett, which pushes the price to $1300-1600+. This doesn't include all of the other little sensors Haltech prefers (typically GM hardware if memory serves.) And let's not even talk about what you'd do to your wiring harness during the installation process.
I'm talking about not altering the factory 951 wiring harness AT ALL. Unplug the DME, unplug the KLR, plug in a MegaSquirt box using salvaged Motronic connectors, and driving away.
And there's no way you can call any Haltech system 'plug and play' for $1,000. To get the E6K working still requires an aftermarket crank angle sensor, $300 from Chris White or $510 from Clewett, which pushes the price to $1300-1600+. This doesn't include all of the other little sensors Haltech prefers (typically GM hardware if memory serves.) And let's not even talk about what you'd do to your wiring harness during the installation process.
I'm talking about not altering the factory 951 wiring harness AT ALL. Unplug the DME, unplug the KLR, plug in a MegaSquirt box using salvaged Motronic connectors, and driving away.
#35
I agree you wont get a running Haltech system for 1K. However, I guess this is more comparable to the Link P&P system. Interesting. Not my cup of tea but interesting. I just wonder if, by the time you have the parameters worked out if you could not have used one of the other systems and been at about the same amount of money. Will be interesting to follow the install.
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#37
Danno could tell you, I dont know. I do know it inlcudes harnesses, etc. Can you run DIS with the MS setup?
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#39
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Just dont count your personal hours of development in the $600 ish dollar expense! These things are often fun though, did Davinder manage to give you some help? Sorry could not find the fly, it may be at the mechanics. You may even have a setup to market once completed...
#40
Originally Posted by Perry 951
My father and I are still in the configuration stages of our Mega Squirt controlled Supercharged Big Bore 911. Squirt seems to be a powerful fuel controller.. but keep in mind that it is only for fuel control and not a stand alone system for all engine parameters. We decided to use it in conjunction with our programmable Electromotive dual plug ignition.
Putting the kit together will take you a solid weekend, wiring and configuring will take months. Because there are few examples of Squirt injected 944's, parameters to get you in the ballpark are not out there. (unlike other systems that can have you going in a couple hours) This means you’ll start with no preloaded maps and have to build them cell by cell.
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Putting the kit together will take you a solid weekend, wiring and configuring will take months. Because there are few examples of Squirt injected 944's, parameters to get you in the ballpark are not out there. (unlike other systems that can have you going in a couple hours) This means you’ll start with no preloaded maps and have to build them cell by cell.
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MS can do EDIS, and its a simply addition to the board. So you have wasted spark ignition. I bought all the stuff needed for an 8cyl for 150 dollars.
The MAP can be changed for higher boost projects.
#41
They call it a hobby for a reason. Did I mention dry roads are a long way off?
Davinder (B951S) is using a Chris White 60-2 crank trigger kit. Oddly enough, the AEM EMS can't use a 60-2 directly but instead converts it into a 12-1 wheel. *shrug* Interesting side note.
Davinder (B951S) is using a Chris White 60-2 crank trigger kit. Oddly enough, the AEM EMS can't use a 60-2 directly but instead converts it into a 12-1 wheel. *shrug* Interesting side note.
#42
Originally Posted by BrendanC
MS can do EDIS, and its a simply addition to the board. So you have wasted spark ignition. I bought all the stuff needed for an 8cyl for 150 dollars.
#43
I am currently doing this on the 78. The 36-1 on *my* pulley for the 928 is perfect for a place right around where the air pump belt usually resides. This 36 wheel is JUST a bit bigger - so I will get some pipe in that similar size and have it welded on.
OR, I will weld it on t he inside end, and space out the alternator, PS pump and alternator.
Do I wish to do all that? Hell no.
The centering thing SHOULD be taken care of by the fact that the pulley is true, and so is the wheel. The union will need to be done *carefully* but it not laser-true - nor would it need to be.
I'm sure we all know this, but the wheel is only for EDIS or spark of whatever sort. The injection doesn't use a wheel - just a VE table based on various factors, TPS, CLT, Air temp, etc
OR, I will weld it on t he inside end, and space out the alternator, PS pump and alternator.
Do I wish to do all that? Hell no.
The centering thing SHOULD be taken care of by the fact that the pulley is true, and so is the wheel. The union will need to be done *carefully* but it not laser-true - nor would it need to be.
I'm sure we all know this, but the wheel is only for EDIS or spark of whatever sort. The injection doesn't use a wheel - just a VE table based on various factors, TPS, CLT, Air temp, etc
#44
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Originally Posted by BrendanC
Ready made- Guys name is Rodney, - he's a great guy. Has looms with coded and labeled wires. I'll probably even use his wires and weathertite stuff for my AEM as well.
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MS can do EDIS, and its a simply addition to the board. So you have wasted spark ignition. I bought all the stuff needed for an 8cyl for 150 dollars.
The MAP can be changed for higher boost projects.
www.rs-autosport.com
MS can do EDIS, and its a simply addition to the board. So you have wasted spark ignition. I bought all the stuff needed for an 8cyl for 150 dollars.
The MAP can be changed for higher boost projects.
#45
Plug and play is really such a misnomer. I'd call my CIS to MegasquirtnSpark Extra Running EDIS plug and play. I'm usuing lots of plugs, and there is probably going to be lots to play with.