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Old 11-25-2004, 12:52 AM
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Looked around and couldn't find discussion about this. I am looking to replace the Cookie Cutters I have on my car. I went to Wheel Enhancement and they have the Turbo Twists and the C2s that I want (can't decide between the two). They have quoted $980 for each set. They are, however, replicas. Is that OK, poor quality, a HUGE no no, or what?
Old 11-25-2004, 01:01 AM
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the biggest problem with the replicas is that they're heavier. you can probably find those two on ebay for not too much more, the only issue is offset. you'll need spacers if you want to run newer style wheels. i don't know if the replicas are made in the older offset or if you'd need spacers for them as well
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They said they make them in the older offset....
Old 11-25-2004, 01:06 AM
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Ya, there are plenty c2/cup replicas in early offset. I think c2's look much better on the 944.

Good luck deciding.
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Mine are replicas (with built-in spacers) and I love them!
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I have a buddy trying to sell a set of 951 fuchs in perfect shape. No rash or scratches. They have the factory black centers. He also has a set of fully polished fuchs for the 951. For polished ones he is asking 2k and 1k for the other set. They both are 16's and 7 fronts and 8 rears.
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Originally Posted by tod84944
I have a buddy trying to sell a set of 951 fuchs in perfect shape. No rash or scratches. They have the factory black centers. He also has a set of fully polished fuchs for the 951. For polished ones he is asking 2k and 1k for the other set. They both are 16's and 7 fronts and 8 rears.
Holy C%!@#. I bought a pair or 16X8 Fuchs for $60 and my 85.5 came with a set of 7X15 fully polished Fuchs! I'm going to sell the 16 inchers on Ebay!
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Anybody dumb enough to sell a pair of 16x8 Fuchs for $60 doesnt deserve to even drive a Porsche because is was fiscally fondled to the Nth degree.

Incidentally $1000 for a set of 16x7s and 16x8 is actually a very good price. Thats $250 a rim. Chump change for a good rim. Considering they are probably the best rims Porsche ever made, and the fact that $250 doesnt buy squat on the new rim market, Id say someone should jump on it.
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UDPride, that, 951 is a fine looking car!
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I'll have some 15" Fuchs for sale in a few weeks.
You could also hunt for aftermarket early offset 911 wheels(same offset) like I did (HRE's):
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I'll first have to hunt for a car like yours.......
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Originally Posted by 924martinirossi
Holy C%!@#. I bought a pair or 16X8 Fuchs for $60 and my 85.5 came with a set of 7X15 fully polished Fuchs! I'm going to sell the 16 inchers on Ebay!
Well, you really need to see if you are comparing apples to oranges here.

951 Fuchs carry a premium price, moreso than the equivelent-sized 911 fuchs. The 951 Fuchs were only available for one year of production. Add in the factors that 951's tend to get totalled, and that 911 guys are hoarding the 16X8 951 Fuchs for putting on the front of their cars, and they are becoming scarcer. I've seen the market value of them jump up more than 100% in the past 3 years. When I was searching for a set back then, they were around $500 for a good set (I won't tell you what I paid for mine back in 2001 ). Now they are hard to find for $1000 (although there have been two sets here lately on Renn, including the one above). 951 Fuchs, for those not in the know, are made differently to accomodate the large brake calipers on the 951's. That is why 951's can't run 911 Fuchs, they smack the calipers with the backs of the "petals".

There are a few fuchs (other than the weird one-off racing only ones) that are "rare" and thus carry premium prices:

1. 911RSR fuchs
2. 911R fuchs
3. 930 16X9 fuchs (I want a pair of these, they clear the 951 calipers in the rear because they were made to clear the large 917/930 calipers).
4. 951 fuchs

Ordinary 911 fuchs aren't rare per-say, and really don't carry a high premium associated with them. Prices are all over the board, depending on the condition. Example, I have a 16X7 911 fuch in white that is perfect except for a little dinger in the lip that can be repaired easily, I picked it up for $20 and is now a clock on my garage wall.
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tifosiman - nice photoshop, I love it!

I would jump on that set of Fuchs, but I want to get away from painted wheels. I have a Copenhagen Blue car and I (personally) don't like the look of black wheels on it. I want to go with a polished or alloy wheel.

Do replicas have a problem with air leaks or being too soft? Are they heavier b/c they are made out of a stronger material? Does the weight make that much difference? I plan on Autox for DE, but not really to compete.
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replicas are usually pretty well made besides their weight. You could also run some factory boxster wheels w/ spacers... def not the best for competition. If you race i would run the cookies.
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Get what you want for the street and keep the cookies for the track, the cookies are lighter and stronger than the replicas. The Replicas are very soft and bend easily, they are heavier because they are made using crappy alloy and need a lot of it to have any strength at all. For an early offset car you can't do any better than Fuchs (well, maybe Fiskes or something but they will set you back big money) but cookies are the next best thing. My street wheels are 911 Fuchs (no problems fitting them to an NA) and my autocross/DE wheels are cookies, add a set of phonedials for the snow tires and I have all the stock wheels covered. A nice set of early offset 15" or16" phone dials can be found for a reasonable amount of cash and should work well with the color of your car, but I'd still keep the cookies for track use.


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