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Old 11-20-2004, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Porschephile 924
in fact, the engine that currently powers my car used to power that one...
Wow... that so... inbred!
Old 11-20-2004, 10:23 PM
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Ow! my ego!
Old 11-20-2004, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by nickhance
haha, That's BADASS.

Is it front heavy at all, or is it still pretty balanced?
The S2 engine is actually lighter than a 2.5 NA engine.

I would dearly love to build a car like that. I may do it someday.
Old 11-20-2004, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pete944
The S2 engine is actually lighter than a 2.5 NA engine.
If by lighter you mean 20 lbs HEAVIER then you're correct...

How could it possibly be lighter with a wider cylinder head, additional camshaft, more lifters, more valves, etc?
Old 11-20-2004, 11:55 PM
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WOW....! In a freakin 924....UNreal, how reliable is it...?

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Old 11-20-2004, 11:58 PM
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Excuse me, I meant to say the block is lighter.

From pg. 88 of Michael Cotton's 924 & 944 collectors guide (refering to the S2 block):

"The new cylinder block was actually 4.5kg (9.9lb) lighter than the one used for the Turbo, although stronger, with siamesed bores and 'closed deck' construction"

Regardless, 10 or 20 lbs. will not effect the front to rear balance by much. The amount of gas in the tank would make more of difference.
Old 11-21-2004, 11:16 AM
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Whoa. You must switch back to a stock header panel and keep those stock wheels! That car must shock the hell out of people when the light turns green.
Old 11-21-2004, 02:23 PM
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Thanks for the compliments, fellas! You guys are right, it is a 968 block (shortblock?) with an S2 head and S2 electronics, and a close ratio gearbox with a direct drive 5th gear. The car goes like stink. The handling is very good even with the Michelin all-seasons (car came with an extra set of 928 wheels with r-compounds that will make a huge improvement). I have not gotten it on the track but the former owner, Roger Zimmerman (who was on this board often I think) assures me handling is neutral and the car will hold its own with some pretty serious (and much more costly) machinery. Car also has Koni adjustable shocks so I think I could dial in some understeer pretty easily, which I'll probably do first time on track. Re: the weight, the car has lightweight Koenig race seats and a Autopower roll bar, and the a/c has been deleted. I suspect it is 50-60 lbs. less than stock on balance. Other mods include 944T sway bars, Paragon coilovers (rear), a big Earl's oil cooler with ss oil lines, strut tower brace, fiberglass nose panel, larger torison bar front, ss brake lines, and a lot of stuff I'm forgetting.
Old 11-21-2004, 06:23 PM
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That is completely bad ***. Awesome car dude.
Old 11-22-2004, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Operator
yea thats an S2 engine
the trick is telling the difference between a 2.5L V16 S engine and a 3.0L V16 S2 engine
how would you go about doing that?
(besides looking at the airbox placement)
The S has a very different intake manifold the Thottle body is in the back of the engine and there is a J tube the runs from the A/F meter to it. Also the block and head are different but not something you can see w/o taking the head off.
Old 11-22-2004, 08:59 PM
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schumi, you gotta do something about that header panel...it looks way out of place! Other than that, that's an awesome 924!
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Re: the header panel - yeah, the color is off. It is really not as noticable in real life as in the pics - the light in the pics seems to emphasize it. The panel is a fiberglass piece - it has an opening that feeds the filter directly; I'm not sure if that is how the 944S2 had it from the factory??? I have the factory piece with the badge in my garage (PO gave it to me).
Old 11-23-2004, 01:23 AM
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The only car that came with vents in the header panel is the 924 turbo, with the 4 slotted vents. That piece is a pretty common replacement for 951's and S2's...
Check out Perry's 951 below...i'm not sure which aftermarket company makes it though.
The problem is that the header panels on 951's and S2's are more curved to accomodate the turbo nose...it's not the same piece. I think a 931 header panel would be a better fit, or put a 931 NACA hood scoop over the filter.
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Old 11-23-2004, 03:19 AM
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Good God that 924S has ***-kicker written all over it under the hood! Freaking Awesome!!! That's a Rennlist Hall-o-Famer
Old 11-23-2004, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by schumi
Re: the header panel - yeah, the color is off. It is really not as noticable in real life as in the pics - the light in the pics seems to emphasize it. The panel is a fiberglass piece - it has an opening that feeds the filter directly; I'm not sure if that is how the 944S2 had it from the factory??? I have the factory piece with the badge in my garage (PO gave it to me).
It's not the color I was commenting on. It's the fact that it is made to fit the S2/951 cars and thus is more curved in the front to match the bumper profile. See how curvy it is compared to the flat profile of the bumper, and how it overlaps it? It's not supposed to do that.

However, since the filter is located in there, you probably won't be able to fit the stock, proper-shaped panel back on there, as it does not give enough clearance (thus the reason that 951 cars and S2 cars had the larger panel----to fit the intercooler for the 951 and the air cleaner for the S2).

If you went to a cone filter set-up in the engine bay (which may or may not be a good idea), you could put the proper fitting panel back on there.........


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