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Old 09-08-2004, 01:32 PM
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They claim to have proformance headers for the 4-valve 944's but I really cannot find any information on them.. Anyone else know about them as it would be a great upgrade for me but I just cannot find anuff information.

Here is were I found them www.cdoc.com anyone know the website for this maker?
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OMG! Do they come with a hooker for that price?

That's outrageous. I'd call Jon Milledge first. I know he's developing the 944S for SCCA ITS racing and I'd suspect he either has a dyno proven header or can tell you exactly what to get.

That is absolutely outrageous for a header, even a SS one and these aren't even SS. They are ceramic coated mild steel. A perfect example of companies charging stupid prices because of the crest on the hood.
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well, I knew that they were well over priced but thats usually the way of CDOC....
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When I last spoke with Jon about his NA header, he was selling it for $650 and his tests showed 12 bhp increase.
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We have two different types of headers for the 944 N/A and 944T.They are reasonably priced.We could also do the headers in mild steel for the N/A guys which would bring the price down quite a bit.
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You don't make a proformance header for the S2 though do you? I atleast didn't see it on your website.
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Sure they do http://www.speedforceracing.com/prod...dersstage1.php

If you think 700 is steep you better sit down. That said Tim's work justifies the price and if the exhaust is any indication the quality of the parts will be VERY VERY good.
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Sure they do http://www.speedforceracing.com/prod...dersstage1.php

If you think 700 is steep you better sit down. That said Tim's work justifies the price and if the exhaust is any indication the quality of the parts will be VERY VERY good.
Heh. It's only worth it if it makes hp. Pretty don't cut it.

Tim, what hp does your header make? Got dyno sheets?
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Matt H those are factory replacement headers...

I do not belive they are really intended to be a proformance header like there stage 2 products.
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George, check the Turbo board for the "pudding" if you will. They made 30HP more than the B&B headers did on the test car in Euro mag.

Fishey, go to stage two, click 968 and read the description, they are for S2 and 968s.

Tim, maybe change that hyperlink to read 944S2 and 968?
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George, check the Turbo board for the "pudding" if you will. They made 30HP more than the B&B headers did on the test car in Euro mag.
Cool. What about the NA?
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
We have two different types of headers for the 944 N/A and 944T.They are reasonably priced.We could also do the headers in mild steel for the N/A guys which would bring the price down quite a bit.
Could...Would...Should!!!
Just how much would they be?
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George, I dont know. That is a question Tim would have to answer. That said Tim is one of the most available vendors I have ever known. Call him and ask, he will answer the phone and be more than happy to talk to you.
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Our stage 1 headers have produced a peak gain of 10 horsepower on a stock 951 on John Milledges engine dyno.The stage 2 header put down 10-30 at the wheels on the Dynojet.We have not tested these on N/A cars so we dont know what they will do.We would be interested in selling the stage 1 header in mild steel for the N/A guys for $695. If you guys want the stage 2 in mild let me know and I can come up with a price.



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