MSDS headers worth it?
#1
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MSDS headers worth it?
just noticed this ebay auction for MSDS headers which apparently have wonderful claims. how much do they actually improve performance? are they worth the $200 price?
#3
from what I've read, the Porsche headers are very good. Even Speedforce Racing said stay with stock headers when replacing the exhaust system. Thats all they said though - they never mentioned how much you could possibly gain by changing them. My guess - not more than 4 horses.
#4
Someone told me you could get 15-20 HP on an NA from K&N filter, headers, and test pipe. That would be worthwhile. But 4hp wouldn't IMHO. Money is better spent on suspension and weight reduction (not to mention track time).
#7
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Originally Posted by RMills944
the test pipe is most of that 15HP... killing the cat does a lot.
A test pipe is in no way gonna give you that much of a gain. That's a 10% increase. No way.
Headers, a test pipe, and a cone filter are not gonna do that for you either. It may even hurt performance, because a 944 needs some back pressure for the low end grunt. That is why a 3" exhaust is not recommended.
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#8
Campeck Rulez
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Originally Posted by tifosiman
because a 944 needs some back pressure for the low end grunt. That is why a 3" exhaust is not recommended.
#9
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Originally Posted by Campeck
ahhh.....but I would sacrifice low end for high end anyday...would you not?
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Campeck Rulez
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Originally Posted by tifosiman
Um........................ah......................................NO. Maybe on a track car where it is at a constant 5-6Krpm with no stop and start corners. But on a street car? Give me grunt any day.
back to class....you got lucky tifo
#13
if anyone has the 12/01 issue of grassroots motor sports they supposedly list the performance figures. there's a write up of part the story here: http://www.grmotorsports.com/proj944.html
the only hp increase printed was 5hp from a ss borla exhaust. i think more importantly than the hp would be the weight savings from switching out the header.
the only hp increase printed was 5hp from a ss borla exhaust. i think more importantly than the hp would be the weight savings from switching out the header.
#14
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Originally Posted by kinda5150
if anyone has the 12/01 issue of grassroots motor sports they supposedly list the performance figures. there's a write up of part the story here: http://www.grmotorsports.com/proj944.html
the only hp increase printed was 5hp from a ss borla exhaust. i think more importantly than the hp would be the weight savings from switching out the header.
the only hp increase printed was 5hp from a ss borla exhaust. i think more importantly than the hp would be the weight savings from switching out the header.
I have a picture somewhere of it in my driveway next to my car. That was a good looking 944.