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Old 05-16-2004, 03:00 AM
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i have black struts, and yellow shocks. im guessing the rear shocks are original. the front, you can see where the original strut fender seat(?) is smaller and more roundish than the surrounding undercoating mark. so my question is: if i were to do 3 back flips in a row on a trampoline..... no wait, i mean, ive been looking for shocks on line, but i dont know what the replacement should be.....arent the yellows konis? and the fronts on the early cars are easy to just use an insert right? but what do i get? what other ways are there to tell what i can use? because dont konis have to be replaced with konis and the boge/sachs have to be replaced with those or bilsteins? which are more preferred? are there any **** adjusted konis out there for my early 85 944? i cant seem to find them.
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I think the Koni, Bilstein, and Boge all make struts that will fit. What you need to know is what was originally installed because the mountings were different. So if yor car orignally had Boges, you need struts designed to replace Boges. Maybe if you find the manufacturer and part number stamped on the struts, a parts store can tell you what you need.
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Hey Kenny,

I am fairly certain that the rears are konis and you can replace them with anything. I'd recommend Konis from Paragon.

The fronts, should be easy to replace via inserts. More than likely Konis will work. Check the outside markings on the strut housing. I'm fairly certain the Konis work in the Koni and Sachs housings, not too certain of the Bilstein. Get the info from the housing and call Jason at Paragon to check.

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The yellows will say Boge on them. If you have a threaded nut on top of your fronts, Paragon will sell you a drop in Koni yellow sport. If you do not have a nut, you can still use Koni yellows, but you will have to do slight Strut modification - (you can also but sleeves and collars from them and make coilovers for $80.00 and dont forget bump rubber).
Yellow stock rears are also Boge - Koni yellow direct replacement is also available.
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i thought all the fronts were already coilovers? first weekend in june? yeah i could probably make that.
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real coilovers have threads for corner balance
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oh i thought you meant the front coilovers. so rear coil overs would get rid of the torsion bars? is it better that way? or did porsche really know what they were doing?
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Noone is responding because you are not reading the posts, man. I already answered your question. I am not speculating. You have four Boge shocks - stock Boge shocks are yellow. You can replace them with Konis.
You do NOT have coilovers anywhere, but you can if you want.



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Originally posted by special tool
Noone is responding because you are not reading the posts, man. I already answered your question. I am not speculating. You have four Boge shocks - stock Boge shocks are yellow. You can replace them with Konis.
You do NOT have coilovers anywhere, but you can if you want.



Actually, technically all of our cars have coilovers on the front. All coilover means is that the coil spring surrounds the strut or shock in an assembled unit. In other words, the coil is over the shock/strut. What he does not have is adjustable ride height coilovers.

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Manning sorry, my friend. If you go to any race shop and show them a Boge 944 OEM shock and say fix my coilover - they will laugh at you and tell you it is really a Macpherson strut. Coilovers have threads.
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how about the **** adjusted konis? are they out there for 944's?
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In what is now common automotive vernacular, you are correct. And it has be adopted by most shock and spring manufactured because of this. However, technically the term originated to describe an assembly with the coil spring and shock or strut assembled as a unit, whether with adjustable ride height or not.
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yeah it says they arent konis. supposed to be better than konis. why doesnt anyone make anything for the early cars?
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I got a little lost on the previous page with the "coil-over" verses "potato" talk Are you looking for Koni Sports for the early 944? If so:

8641-1038S - front insert
26-1209S - rear shock

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