RobbyK

With modification do you think the 928 rear coil over suspension would work in the 944?

hacker-pschorr

Did you happen to aquire a set? If not why? I'm not ripping on the idea, just curious.

RobbyK

Just looking for a starting point to mod the rear suspension , and I know the 928's rear suspension was very good.

BC

As I remember my 924S, which was a 944 underneath, I think it would be pretty much very difficult. I mean people have put monster truck suspensions on hondas, so its not IMPOSSIBLE.

I think it'd be cheaper to put some coilovers made for your car.

The 928 has more pickup points. I have the whole assembly on my garage floor.

RobbyK

There any recomedations for an upgraded rear supension out there ?

reno928s

I once owned a 928 and would love to duplicate it's handling for my 951. Are the coil overs the only difference between the 928 and the 951? TIA, Reno

L8 APEKS

Just curious...the 951 handles just fine with the suspensions available for it. Why are you looking to do such a huge project and frankenstein your 951, when the finished result may be worse than it is now?!

Trust the Porsche engineers. If the 928 susp. worked better on a 951, they would have put it there.

westcoastprshe

"Are the coil overs the only difference between the 928 and the 951? TIA, Reno"

No. There is next to nothing the same between the cars. The 928 uses A-arms on the rear, and shares pretty much nothing with the 924/944/968 cars.

Don't give the 928 suspension on a 944 another thought, it's a complete waste of time. A good set of shocks or coilovers for the 951 plus good swaybars are the direction you want to go in.

If you want to do away with the torsion bars completely kokeln makes a rear suspension setup, but it's thousands of dollars, and is overkill for anything but a track car.

RobbyK

First of all I am not talking 951, I am talking early 944 and the rear suspension needs a little work. Now I dont need a debate on if it is a good idea or not I need some advice on what to do with the rear suspension.

Dave

Swaybars, shocks and torsion bars are a little work, swaping in a 928 rear is more than a little work. I wouldn't be suprised if there was not enough space under a 944 for it to fit, I'm sure gas tank relocation would be required and IIRC the floor height in a 928's cargo area is a little higher than in a 944. Add to this that the mounting points don't exist in a 944 and the shell wasn't engineered to have the rear suspension stress at the same place so the easiest thing might be to take the whole rear floor of a 928 and graft it in. I doubt rear track will be the sameso there will still be a lot of fabrication.

hacker-pschorr

Robby, settle down. When you start bay sayng you want to upgrade by swapping the rear end of a 928 on a 944, it says your looking for the highest possible performance upgrade. Ok, what are your options?

1. New Koni yellows in the rear
2. Stiffer torsion bar
3. stiffer torsion bar with koni yellow's
4. coil over's with light springs keeping stock torsion bars
5. coil over's with heavy springs, removing the torsion bars

All of the above can be used with bigger and stiffer sway bars. Or bigger and stiffer sway bars on a stock setup. Take your pick, here are your options. Any questions?

RobbyK

No I am no yelling at any one I was just clarifying what the car was, and what would be involved in putting a coil over set up with light springs in the rear?

M758

928 suspension front and rear is very different from the 924/944/951/968 suspension.

The 944 suspension is of the same design throuhout the the entire 924/944/951/968 line. Changes were made to spring rates, shocks bushing material and control arm material. Any swaps among these cars is not that hard. Some issues related to offest will occur, but it is possible. In all cases the McPherson strut front suspension can be converted to a true ride height adjustable coilover and in the rear the t-bars can be replaced by coilover set-up.

The 928 has double wish bone front and Weissach rear axle. The rear axle was design by Porsche for the 928 and has superior toe charateristics under braking and cornering. I believe lessons learned from it were put in to the 964 and 993 rear suspensions.

In fact the 944 rear suspension is of a similar design as the 911. Both of which are similar the Super beetle. I have heard the 924/early 944 was a direct pull from the Super Beetle Parts bin. The 951 and late 944 saw those parts upgraded, but still using the same basic geometry.

RobbyK

Bump, Can some one who has worked with the early suspension and knows there way around it please tell me what would be the best set up over all for front and rear?

westcoastprshe

Robby: There is no "best" unfortunately There is probably a best for $250, a best for $500, $1k, $2k, $10k.

Also, best for the street is not best for AutoX, track, rally, skijumping, etc.

What kind of things do you plan on doing with the car? How much do you care about ride comfort?And what is your budget? With those things in mind, there are lots of people that can recommend a good setup easily.

Also, there is not a lot of difference in your options between the early 944 and the other later cars, so most advice works for both of them.