evilBay fraud alert!
03-28-2004, 10:39 PM
#31
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hey guys maybe hes just playing a joke on one of his friends or something. He might have told his buddies he has a 968 and he is planning to sell it, so he put a fake one on ebay. Then, hes is planning to be the top bidder and beat everybody no matter what the price, so he doesnt have to sell it to anybody.
03-28-2004, 10:43 PM
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I dont think anyone should take this in a joking manner, at the very best is it an attempt to defraud someone and at the worst it is an attempt to defraud and steal from someone. To be honest, I would let Ebay know that you are going to deal with law enforcement (call them and talk to them first) and that the LEOs need the info of the person selling the car. If none of that works then sending money for something VIA USPS should be enough for mail fraud and likely a few other federal counts. Ignorance is not an excuse, if they are trying to play a joke (which I seriously doubt they are).
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03-28-2004, 10:49 PM
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Heh, you aren't legally binded to pay for an auction.
To add a liittle humore. just last week my friend accidentally left his ebay name logged in at school.
He got home to look at his ebay account, to see that he won a bently for 178,000 and a ferarri spyder for 128,000.
Needless to say, he didnt pay for them.. but i told him he should've told his parents it was legally binding and had them sell the house for the cars.
To add a liittle humore. just last week my friend accidentally left his ebay name logged in at school.
He got home to look at his ebay account, to see that he won a bently for 178,000 and a ferarri spyder for 128,000.
Needless to say, he didnt pay for them.. but i told him he should've told his parents it was legally binding and had them sell the house for the cars.
03-28-2004, 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by yieldsign2
Heh, you aren't legally binded to pay for an auction.
To add a liittle humore. just last week my friend accidentally left his ebay name logged in at school.
He got home to look at his ebay account, to see that he won a bently for 178,000 and a ferarri spyder for 128,000.
Needless to say, he didnt pay for them.. but i told him he should've told his parents it was legally binding and had them sell the house for the cars.
Heh, you aren't legally binded to pay for an auction.
To add a liittle humore. just last week my friend accidentally left his ebay name logged in at school.
He got home to look at his ebay account, to see that he won a bently for 178,000 and a ferarri spyder for 128,000.
Needless to say, he didnt pay for them.. but i told him he should've told his parents it was legally binding and had them sell the house for the cars.
03-28-2004, 11:00 PM
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haha... i did. but thats cuz we are 17 and find each others problems funny. lol. him and his mom wrote the guy emails (it was both the same seller). and hes still getting payment reminders and non paying bidder alerts. but ebay wrote him a letter when he wrote to them about it, saying that if he received any bad feedback or non paying bidder complaints, to tell them and they would take care of it. at least ebay supports some customers.
03-28-2004, 11:19 PM
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i just sent him a question asking why the VIN doesn't come back as a 1980 and also requested to be put on the approved bidder list...we'll see. so -what's the plan, everybody?
03-28-2004, 11:21 PM
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This is no joke -- my friends are way too old for anything that juvenile (and their kids are way too young to even walk!) It ticks me off that so much fraud goes on eBay -- I'd love give law enforcement something they can sink their teeth into.
Since I'm going to win the auction for my own car, I don't think anyone can get into any trouble. So what if I'm legally bound to pay money to myself (the legal owner of the car)? I certainly don't mind if I don't come through with the money -- I'll just keep my car and I won't owe me anything!
Since I'm going to win the auction for my own car, I don't think anyone can get into any trouble. So what if I'm legally bound to pay money to myself (the legal owner of the car)? I certainly don't mind if I don't come through with the money -- I'll just keep my car and I won't owe me anything!
03-28-2004, 11:27 PM
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Ha, ha! The plot thickens... This is a Western Union fraud (wire the guy a deposit, you get nothing).
So here is the e-mail from the seller (I asked him to put me on the approved bidder list):
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Hello,
The product will arrive to you with all the accessories that you need.
If any damage appears during the shipping I will support them all and
if necessarily give you back the money.
The shipping_ will be made via Lufthansa Airplane Cargo and you will get the product in 2 business days.It cost 2100$. To complete this transaction, please email me your address so I can get your package ready to ship. Payment will be done by cash money transfer through Western Union.
I will ship you the products immediately after I have the confirmation
of payment from you.You will have_ just to go to a western union and
fill in a form with my name and address.After you_ make the wire transfer you email me the MTCN ( money transfer control number )_ so_ I will check it on their site and then I will forward you the merchandise.Here are my details that you need for money transfer:
Name: John Harkness
Adress: 1200 Chester Rd Birmingham West Midlands B35 7AF
When you will go to the western union office to wire the money
sometimes they_ ask you why are you doing that.If you will tell them
that they are for something you have bought , i will have to pay when i
pick up the money a very expensive tax for making commerce.This is the
part where i lose
_This we avoid spending some useless money and the truth i am not willing to do that.
I hope you will understand why i am doing that and i also hope you will
end this deal sooner.
I look forward to complete this deal successfully.
Regards, John
Harlan Harkness
HM (760) 777-9738
FAX (760) 771-6281
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Now what? Ideas?
So here is the e-mail from the seller (I asked him to put me on the approved bidder list):
-----
Hello,
The product will arrive to you with all the accessories that you need.
If any damage appears during the shipping I will support them all and
if necessarily give you back the money.
The shipping_ will be made via Lufthansa Airplane Cargo and you will get the product in 2 business days.It cost 2100$. To complete this transaction, please email me your address so I can get your package ready to ship. Payment will be done by cash money transfer through Western Union.
I will ship you the products immediately after I have the confirmation
of payment from you.You will have_ just to go to a western union and
fill in a form with my name and address.After you_ make the wire transfer you email me the MTCN ( money transfer control number )_ so_ I will check it on their site and then I will forward you the merchandise.Here are my details that you need for money transfer:
Name: John Harkness
Adress: 1200 Chester Rd Birmingham West Midlands B35 7AF
When you will go to the western union office to wire the money
sometimes they_ ask you why are you doing that.If you will tell them
that they are for something you have bought , i will have to pay when i
pick up the money a very expensive tax for making commerce.This is the
part where i lose
_This we avoid spending some useless money and the truth i am not willing to do that.
I hope you will understand why i am doing that and i also hope you will
end this deal sooner.
I look forward to complete this deal successfully.
Regards, John
Harlan Harkness
HM (760) 777-9738
FAX (760) 771-6281
---
Now what? Ideas?
03-28-2004, 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by josephsc
Ha, ha! The plot thickens... This is a Western Union fraud (wire the guy a deposit, you get nothing).
So here is the e-mail from the seller (I asked him to put me on the approved bidder list):
-----
Hello,
The product will arrive to you with all the accessories that you need.
If any damage appears during the shipping I will support them all and
if necessarily give you back the money.
The shipping_ will be made via Lufthansa Airplane Cargo and you will get the product in 2 business days.It cost 2100$. To complete this transaction, please email me your address so I can get your package ready to ship. Payment will be done by cash money transfer through Western Union.
I will ship you the products immediately after I have the confirmation
of payment from you.You will have_ just to go to a western union and
fill in a form with my name and address.After you_ make the wire transfer you email me the MTCN ( money transfer control number )_ so_ I will check it on their site and then I will forward you the merchandise.Here are my details that you need for money transfer:
Name: John Harkness
Adress: 1200 Chester Rd Birmingham West Midlands B35 7AF
When you will go to the western union office to wire the money
sometimes they_ ask you why are you doing that.If you will tell them
that they are for something you have bought , i will have to pay when i
pick up the money a very expensive tax for making commerce.This is the
part where i lose
_This we avoid spending some useless money and the truth i am not willing to do that.
I hope you will understand why i am doing that and i also hope you will
end this deal sooner.
I look forward to complete this deal successfully.
Regards, John
Harlan Harkness
HM (760) 777-9738
FAX (760) 771-6281
---
Now what? Ideas?
Ha, ha! The plot thickens... This is a Western Union fraud (wire the guy a deposit, you get nothing).
So here is the e-mail from the seller (I asked him to put me on the approved bidder list):
-----
Hello,
The product will arrive to you with all the accessories that you need.
If any damage appears during the shipping I will support them all and
if necessarily give you back the money.
The shipping_ will be made via Lufthansa Airplane Cargo and you will get the product in 2 business days.It cost 2100$. To complete this transaction, please email me your address so I can get your package ready to ship. Payment will be done by cash money transfer through Western Union.
I will ship you the products immediately after I have the confirmation
of payment from you.You will have_ just to go to a western union and
fill in a form with my name and address.After you_ make the wire transfer you email me the MTCN ( money transfer control number )_ so_ I will check it on their site and then I will forward you the merchandise.Here are my details that you need for money transfer:
Name: John Harkness
Adress: 1200 Chester Rd Birmingham West Midlands B35 7AF
When you will go to the western union office to wire the money
sometimes they_ ask you why are you doing that.If you will tell them
that they are for something you have bought , i will have to pay when i
pick up the money a very expensive tax for making commerce.This is the
part where i lose
_This we avoid spending some useless money and the truth i am not willing to do that.
I hope you will understand why i am doing that and i also hope you will
end this deal sooner.
I look forward to complete this deal successfully.
Regards, John
Harlan Harkness
HM (760) 777-9738
FAX (760) 771-6281
---
Now what? Ideas?
Whoa! SCAM!
03-28-2004, 11:33 PM
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I agree with Brian here, call him up. Talk to him on the phone. If he was selling a real car I don't think he would hesitate. Before I bought a car online I would want to talk to the person at least on the phone.
03-28-2004, 11:34 PM
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Yea i got the same EXACT email from him...I agree with Matt we/you should take this very seriously if you plan to do anything besides just alerting ebay about it.
Keep us posted!
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