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Is This Connector To the Original Stereo (early 944)?
Hello,
I'm trying to make my way through the rat's nest that several previous owners gifted to me when I bought my '84. I'm getting through most of it...Does the Connector in the picture below go to the original stereo? The color code on the uncut power wire is the correct color code, and I traced it back to the switched side where I believe the 'radio relay' would go. The cut brown ground wire matches up perfectly to where a previous owner patched in the ground for the stereo he had in it. Oddly enough he ran both his constant and switched wire from his stereo to the constant +12V that went to the factory stereo-with it's 2.5A fuse and holder still in place. It couldn't have been a very successful installation.
Thank you for your help!
Last edited by tempest411; 12-28-2020 at 01:05 AM.
I have a late 944 ('86 NA). I thoroughly identified my original stereo wires, harness and connectors. Here is a page from the factory manual for the early 944 radio. I don't see a 2 pole connector. The Brown/Red and Brown (earth) match your connector like the radio relay, but the radio relay has four terminals (30, 85, 86, 87) so it seems unlikely to me that it is the relay connector?
Last edited by Chalt; 12-29-2020 at 08:34 PM.
Reason: Added info
Thank you very much for your replies! I have, however, answered my own question since posting this, and discovered something in particular that may help others in the future. The diagram for the early cars that you posted, and is commonly found on the net is for an '83. As it turns out '83 differs a bit from the '84 models. On the '84 models the switched red/blue power wire is in a two-pole connector with the ground. The red/yellow +12V constant feed is by itself. I posted the page from the '84 diagrams that illustrates this. They don't show the whole stereo installation so neatly as they do on the '83 models, but it answers my question. I did find the fader speaker wiring to be the same in my '84 as shown in the '83 models. 'Speaking' of which, that's nuts that Porsche made all the speaker wires the same color to all four speakers! They're color coded at the fader, but a scant few inches away after the connector and they're all the same. Weird. Where my combination radio/sunroof relay plugs in I had nothing but the connector. I was initially concerned that the design may have been such that I was going to have to track down a functioning #944-615-103-00 relay, even if my car doesn't have a sunroof. But after studying the diagram I decided to try a standard ol' four terminal Bosch type relay and found it worked fine. I never could find a picture of the back of an early car radio to verify that the connector I found plugged directly into it, or if there was something between it and the radio.
So the BEA-80 is the Blaupunkt Equalizer. If his '84 didn't have an EQ, is that just part of the harness for the cars that had the EQ as optional equipment? I looked at the Reno SQ46 and it doesn't use a connector like this one.
ok. but the plug looks like it fits . production is 84-86 according to this sheet from radio museum. blaupunkt was the cutting edge with car cd players in 83.
ok. but the plug looks like it fits . production is 84-86 according to this sheet from radio museum. blaupunkt was the cutting edge with car cd players in 83.
Agreed, it definitely looks like it fits that EQ. And thanks, Thomas, for that link. I wasn't aware of that website – great find!
Hmm, after looking at the plug and the picture of the BEA80, those would definitely not work for each other. Opening on the BEA80 is smaller than the plug, and has the other male spade at a 90 degree angle to the rest.
This is the diagram I figured out for my late 944. My drawing based on wires in the center console behind my radio.
Does anyone have a part number or even a picture of the 6PIN female connector for the stereo, above? Like many others, I inherited a mutilated wiring harness in my 951 with the 10 speaker options and equalizer. Previous owner and/or hamfisted installer cut the connector off to splice in an alpine headunit, and bypassed the rears so he could install a pair of crappy 6 x 9s directly into holes in the the rear carpet. I am trying to at least restore the harnessing, remove the 6 x 9s, and run power back to the factory rear locations. Will probably still use aftermarket components, but want them back in the stock locations with holes plugged and clean wiring.
edit: NM, found what I was looking for in this post. Sounds like I have to comb scrapyards/ebay, and am going to dig through the Mouser catalog and beyond to see what I can find for "6 pin iso fmale connector."
Last edited by fasterfaster; 03-21-2022 at 11:43 PM.
Let me just say, I was 17 or 18 when I got my first P-Car, a 1979 924. My family was not rich by any stretch of the imagination. The car cost $5,000 back in '87-88 when I got it, It was pretty but not "sorted" as we like to say. I cut my teeth learning to wrench on that car as I had to pay for maintenance myself, not my parents. I am so glad now that they made me pay for maintenance or I would have never gotten the fever for wrenching. I am rambling, but I am going somewhere with this.
In '87-88 there was no internet. Yes, I had bought the actual factory manual set from Porsche. But as a young green shade tree mechanic, they were hard to interpret so I used multiple books on car repair to learn and fill in the blanks on concepts I hadn't yet grasped.
NOW. NOW, now, oh my God, ...... we are sooooooo blessed with youtube, Clarks-Garage, Rennlist, Pelican forums, and many other online resources to learn to fix these vintage cars. I would just like to say a huge thank you to all the Rennlisters out there who have helped me with my posts learning to diagnose and fix my 86 944. Also, the wealth of knowledge here is gold.
Bottom line, you younger cats on here have no idea how lucky you are to live in this era and have access to places like Rennlist.
12-28-2020, 01:03 AM
Is This Connector To the Original Stereo (early 944)?
