jabbadeznuts

After sunday, I've found that my 944 N/A understeers a bit in a flat corner. Worse under heavy throttle.

Dave

Prime example of why they shouldn't give driver's licences to 16 year olds...

adrial

Some 16 year olds are OK; it should be selective IMO, but that would cost too much money.

Ben Plaisted

After my last autox I find my car definetly understeers, on the road however under slightly wet conditions it's a whole other story haha.

loonyjuice

With fatter tyres at the rear than the front, it's always going to understeer first. Especially if taken smoothly into a corner at speed, or gentle acceleration. However, if you lift off, I have, on several occasions, had a nice bit of lift-off oversteer, especially wet roundabouts.

If you bang your foot down, mid-bend in 2nd gear, at about 4k rpm, your gonna get some nice power oversteer. I know, I've been there, and I'd do it again! Especially when it comes to the mandatory "rinse your tyres before you change them" ritual.

Fishey

I always found that lowspeed you can throttle over in my S2.. (under 45mph) and above that the car leads to more oversteer anyways.. unless you are making really fast turns but then almost any car in the world understeers... It all really depends on the corner and how you aproach it.. I mean you can take the same corner twice and get diffrent results...

M758

They do tend torward understeer, but what will really happend depends on the corner taken, speed, surface grip, steering angle, car weight at each corner, weight transfered, throttle application, brake application, tire pressure, tire condition... did I forget something.... Oh yeah driver skill!

Campeck

my friend doesnt diserve due to his immaturity level.
but I am 15-for the next 10 days-and I believ I drive very well.
My dad just makes me nervous

adrial

Haha most people think they drive very well, no offense.

Take it easy out there...

Campeck

OriginalSterm

I thought the same thing when I was 16. Now, I can't believe I actually got my license. Take it easy, learn the car, gradually increase your aggressiveness in a controlled environment.

RSflared72e

These cars are pretty neutral. The suspension set up, tire wear and type, sudden road elevation changes and other variables can throw you either way in a given situation. As mentioned, the default slight tendency is to understeer. I used to make it my mission to find places where dips and such unload the tires briefly, thus it was easy to throw it into oversteer. I recall a great left turn in Raleigh near my old apartment in the early 90s where the road dropped a bit - you could reliably get the tail out into a power slide like the "eats Ferraris" ad making the turn with the right amount of throttle on my first 951, used to do it every day, damn I miss that car...

Z-man

-Z-man.

Waterguy

The early 944 came with a 20 mm front sway bar and no rear sway bar. An option got you a 21.5 mm solid (or 23.5 mm hollow) front bar and a 14 mm solid rear bar. I would guess that the non-rear-sway bar cars probably understerr a bit more than the ones that came with the rear sway bar. Any comments from experience?

FSAEracer03

LOL... Z-man, thats cruel, ouch!

Campeck... when are you getting your license, man? You better start convincing your 'rents to let you road trip to the 944Fest this summer!

[EDIT:] Oh yeah... and my 951 is the most neutral car I've driven yet on the road. She'll keep perfectly neutral with slight throttle through the turn, will understeer a little bit if agressive on the throttle and already going quickly, or she'll oversteer if coming in quickly and too light on the throttle (or if coming in slowly and agressive on the throttle WEEEE!! lol). Like someone already said, it all depends on what your feet are doing. These cars are incredibly neutral and dependant on driver input. Just remember to respect them and learn them progressively as you are a fresh driver... and they won't bite you in the ***.

And Campeck, just remember you are lucky to have this as your first car. My first car (though I'm very happy to have had it) was a 1988 Honda Accord LXi... and with 10 year old suspension, weight in the front, and ****ty tires... it doesn't matter WHAT you were doing in the corner. If your right hand wasn't yanking the ebrake, you were understeering. Hell that thing was understeering before I even thought about turning, I swear. The times that I succeeded in getting it to oversteer I could count on one hand!