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Jan 16, 2019 - Spike's Car Radio Podcast

Old 01-24-2019, 09:49 PM
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Did anyone listen to the January 16th, 2019 episode of Spike's Car Radio podcast?

They talk with Jerry Senifeld who just bought two 951s and raves about them. They spend about 3 minutes joking about the price of 944's going through the roof now.

https://www.podcastone.com/episode/S...is-Taproot-Car

There is another episode from back on April 11, 2018 when they talk about David Letterman's 944 being for sale on BAT. Not sure if David Letterman ended up purchasing that car or not, but in that episode they came up with the concept of a "tap root" car.

https://www.podcastone.com/episode/Randy-Nonnenberg

A "tap root" car is the first car that a person owns that they are dying to get back later in life. I guess the 944 was that car for both Letterman and Seinfeld. Looks like people are starting to (re)discover our little hidden gem of a Porsche...
Old 01-25-2019, 12:28 AM
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Actually, if I understood correctly, one of the two Jerry bought is a 944S2 Cab.
Having owned one myself I wholeheartedly approve!
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Originally Posted by Ashman
Did anyone listen to the January 16th, 2019 episode of Spike's Car Radio podcast?

They talk with Jerry Senifeld who just bought two 951s and raves about them. They spend about 3 minutes joking about the price of 944's going through the roof now.

https://www.podcastone.com/episode/S...is-Taproot-Car

There is another episode from back on April 11, 2018 when they talk about David Letterman's 944 being for sale on BAT. Not sure if David Letterman ended up purchasing that car or not, but in that episode they came up with the concept of a "tap root" car.

https://www.podcastone.com/episode/Randy-Nonnenberg

A "tap root" car is the first car that a person owns that they are dying to get back later in life. I guess the 944 was that car for both Letterman and Seinfeld. Looks like people are starting to (re)discover our little hidden gem of a Porsche...
I’m surprised it took this long; I fully expect rare model (951S, rare-optioned S2’s), low mile 944s to start bringing E30 M3 money in the next five years or so. The 944 is everything an entry-level millennial collector is looking for, and I don’t understand why there is such a massive value gap between the 944 and the 928 (which is not to say the 928 is overvalued).
Old 01-28-2019, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AkechiMotors
I’m surprised it took this long; I fully expect rare model (951S, rare-optioned S2’s), low mile 944s to start bringing E30 M3 money in the next five years or so. The 944 is everything an entry-level millennial collector is looking for, and I don’t understand why there is such a massive value gap between the 944 and the 928 (which is not to say the 928 is overvalued).
It’s easier to understand why there is a significant price difference between 944s and 928s when you take into account the number of each that we’re built.
Collector car values are a function of both desirability and rarity. For a car to command high prices, both have to be present. Simply put, 928s are relatively more rare than 944s (in general). As a higher spec car to begin with they are also more desirable to most people as well. Thus the higher values we see for the rarer 928s (GTs, GTSs, and low mile originals of some years).

If we narrow your focus to more specific and rarer 944s (turbos, turbo S, special editions, S2s), we can already see 944 prices heading upward for quality cars.

On the other hand there’s nothing wrong with the more common 944 variants remaining affordable IMO because it allows many of us to own a truly awesome 80s era sports car that would be financially unattainable otherwise.
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Originally Posted by Spokayman

It’s easier to understand why there is a significant price difference between 944s and 928s when you take into account the number of each that we’re built.
Collector car values are a function of both desirability and rarity. For a car to command high prices, both have to be present. Simply put, 928s are relatively more rare than 944s (in general). As a higher spec car to begin with they are also more desirable to most people as well. Thus the higher values we see for the rarer 928s (GTs, GTSs, and low mile originals of some years).
While the 928 was certainly built in fewer quantities, the 944 has basically been a disposable car for most of the last three decades. Given that, I wonder how many 944s are left vs 928s; 356s were treated in much the same way as the 944 for the vast majority of their lives, and as a result, they are now rarer than lwb, long nose 911s.

I get the performance advantage of the 928 vis-a-vis the 944, but I think the 944 is a much better-looking, less polarizing car athletically. I’m actually surprised the 928 is as desireable as it is, as I personally think they’re just so ugly. I really, really want to like them, and I appreciate the design nostalgia, but I just don’t think it’s a good-looking car. The 944, otoh, is dead sexy once you upgrade to a Euro rear bumper and adjust the stance, and doubly so for the Turbos and S2s.
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Wanted to post a link to a follow up interview, where Jerry talks about driving the 944 S2 Cab and 944 Turbo. In a nutshell, he loves the Turbo, but immediately sold the cab.

https://www.podcastone.com/episode/Earth-Wind-and-Fire
Old 10-19-2020, 08:01 PM
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The follow up interview was great! Jerry does a whole routine on why the 951 is such an amazing platform. It starts about half way thru.
It doesn't hurt our case that he bought a 20k mile original 89 Turbo to flash back to his roots.
I guess all of this transpired in Jan '19. I missed it.
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I listened today... good podcast!


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