Brake Pads: Who Do You Like?
01-31-2004, 07:27 PM
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FWIW, the factory pads are made by Pagid.
I just installed a complete set, front and back, in the S2 cabrio myself, complete with silencers and sensors. Spent around $450 in parts alone, but the're extremely quiet and very effective for street use.
I just installed a complete set, front and back, in the S2 cabrio myself, complete with silencers and sensors. Spent around $450 in parts alone, but the're extremely quiet and very effective for street use.
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01-31-2004, 08:44 PM
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Now I don't know about Porsche, but I work at a Jeep dealership and instead of using the factory pads we use an aftermarket pad - Raybestos QS pads. It's a ceramic pad that is much quieter than factory and has very little brake dust residue. The reason we use those instead of the factory pads is because the factory pads are about $150 for the fronts and tend to squeek very often. I'm not too sure if they make Raybestos for Porsche's, but I would give it a try. Hope this helps
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02-01-2004, 03:14 AM
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What is the issue with HAWK pads? I have never used them but thay have come highly recommended from friends and co-workers. I need to replace my pads and was going to go with the HAWK HT-9 pads, or maybe the blacks.
MPW, can you tell me why you don't like the HAWK pads?
FYI, if you glue the pads to the pistons, using a copper paste (or put moly paste on the backs), you will get rid of most if not all of that brake squeak/squeal. The squeal/squeak is caused by dust/brake residue gettin in between the pad and the piston(s). I was unaware of this until about a year ago when a co-worker of mine told me this. People always come into my shop and complain that their brakes squeal a lot on their motorcycles and want to replace the bads. Maybe 10% of the people I tell to try that out can't be bothered and would rather replace the practically fresh pads they bought 2 months ago.
Sorry to get off topic. To my knowledge Raybestos doesn't make pads for the 944's, though my sources on this could be wrong.
MPW, can you tell me why you don't like the HAWK pads?
FYI, if you glue the pads to the pistons, using a copper paste (or put moly paste on the backs), you will get rid of most if not all of that brake squeak/squeal. The squeal/squeak is caused by dust/brake residue gettin in between the pad and the piston(s). I was unaware of this until about a year ago when a co-worker of mine told me this. People always come into my shop and complain that their brakes squeal a lot on their motorcycles and want to replace the bads. Maybe 10% of the people I tell to try that out can't be bothered and would rather replace the practically fresh pads they bought 2 months ago.
Sorry to get off topic. To my knowledge Raybestos doesn't make pads for the 944's, though my sources on this could be wrong.
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I think you should try PERFORMANCE FRICTION "PFC97"
Text from http://www.performancefriction.com/pages/compounds.htm
97 Compound
This compound was designed as an all-purpose pad where excellent controllability was a priority over ultimate stopping power. Due to its excellent modulation characteristics, this pad has proved very popular with race schools, rallying, and as a rear pad for applications such as touring cars. 97 has the lowest wear of all compounds, typically providing two to three times more life expectancy than competitors. This compound can also dramatically extend disc life.
97 is a medium torque race compound and as a result can provide reduced brake temperatures in situations where poor cooling can result in premature disc failure. 97 has the flattest torque curve of all the Performance Friction compounds. Effective from 167°F and reach 2000°F (75°C, reach 1100°C), 97 uses Performance Friction’s unique lubrication package that maintains a minimal transfer layer on the disc to help prevent brake judder and provide excellent release properties, therefore reducing overall drag in the brake system. 97 is extremely easy on the discs with very low wear.
97 is now being used in Bondurant, Derek Daley, Dale Jarrett Driving Adventure, Panoz, Mid Ohio, and Jim Russell racing schools because of it's long wear vs. performance vs. control and modulation.
Text from http://www.performancefriction.com/pages/compounds.htm
97 Compound
This compound was designed as an all-purpose pad where excellent controllability was a priority over ultimate stopping power. Due to its excellent modulation characteristics, this pad has proved very popular with race schools, rallying, and as a rear pad for applications such as touring cars. 97 has the lowest wear of all compounds, typically providing two to three times more life expectancy than competitors. This compound can also dramatically extend disc life.
97 is a medium torque race compound and as a result can provide reduced brake temperatures in situations where poor cooling can result in premature disc failure. 97 has the flattest torque curve of all the Performance Friction compounds. Effective from 167°F and reach 2000°F (75°C, reach 1100°C), 97 uses Performance Friction’s unique lubrication package that maintains a minimal transfer layer on the disc to help prevent brake judder and provide excellent release properties, therefore reducing overall drag in the brake system. 97 is extremely easy on the discs with very low wear.
97 is now being used in Bondurant, Derek Daley, Dale Jarrett Driving Adventure, Panoz, Mid Ohio, and Jim Russell racing schools because of it's long wear vs. performance vs. control and modulation.