pzull

Hi All,

I've heard that the 944 world use the LEDA suspension quite a bit, well certainly more than the 964 world...which is none on rennlist as far as I know.

I am looking at the basic 24-way adjustable shocks without external reservior.

How do they compare with Bilstein PSS9s?
How long do they last?
Any feedback on differences with different brand springs?
Anything else I should be aware of?

Thanks in advance.

Songzzz

pzull.... how's the weather in s'pore?

For your road condition, the PSS9 should hold up very well. Having used it in my tt before.

There's another rennlister from S'pore: "J Chen", he has Ledas in his 951 (Taiwan).. I'm sure he'll reply to this post...

pzull

By "hold up" do you mean they're durable?

Actually Singapore roads are no problem as one can't get any decent speed here but it's on the Malaysian highways and B-roads that my current RUF suspension is too soft.

PSS9s are just so pricey and since they are new, there's no history of how durable they are.

It's been raining every other day in Singapore

RedlineMan

Howdy;

The Leda systems work very well. I have the Gas Remote Single adjust for my track car. In three years of track only use, they are everything I could ask for. I waited and searched for years to find something this rugged, versatile, and affordable. They work so well, I decided to market them in my business as well. First I owned them, now I sell them. My customers are just as happy. Best system for the money out there.

They are custom built to your specs, easily rebuildable and revalveable, and offer the widest range of damping adjustment you can get. All for less than other brands.

If you have need of serious supension components, you should give Leda a SERIOUS look!

Offering Leda/Hypercoil/Racer'sEdge/Tarret Engineering suspension components.

www.redlinerennsport.com

J Chen

Hi Pzull,
Yes Songzzz correct, I'm replying. The Ledas are
pretty good. Been using it for coming 3 years &
no problem. If you're using it on the 964, makesure
that the valving is correctly set for your car.
Try contacting Leda & see what they can advice.
Yes look for David, he's very well verse.
Don't waste your money on the gas version unless
you're gonna track the car.
BTW I had a 964 RS but it was'nt my cup of tea

Songzzz

J Chen... i visited Leda's site and they have this 741pounds complete kit for the 944, is this the one you have?

J Chen

HI Songzzz,
Yes, I think it is. You see I was one of their
early guinea pigs. Those shocks I got was
an early production series which was meant
for a 944 series race in the U.K. The thing
was that I had to re-engineer the rears to
get it mounted. Was really quite a pain but
thank goodness the valving was correctly set.
I think they have remedied the mounting for
the rear shocks. My rear shocks came with rose joint for top & bottom

pzull

Thanks JC for feedback.

John,
What kind of spring rates would you recommend for a daily driver with weekend track? I am looking for dual spring setups. thanks

Blackbart

One word - awsome!!! Better than Bilsteins or Konis.

pzull

Blackbart, in what way are they better? Cheers

J Chen

Hi Pzull,
You're welcome. Stick to the
single coils.

gnosis

Does Leda make triple adjustables? I'm looking for separate low and high speed adjustment as well as the ability to re-shim the units at home. I know Penske can do it, but I don't have that sort of cash. Any other brands I should know about?

Clayton

pzull

One last question:

Is there any point getting the emulsified gas/oil version as opposed to the oil only version? Both are without remote reservior.

I do track once a month, hard for about 5 laps (3.5km each lap) and then rest for 30 mins and then blast again - all in about 3 hrs each weekend. Rest of the time is city driving. On the way to the track and back is 360km ( long (each way) high speed drive at between 180-220 kph where there are sections that are uneven but not exactly bumpy.

J Chen

Hi Pzull,
I'm thinking about trying it myself.
Can't be bad. Suppose to keep the
oil in shape at higher temp. As with
anything, there is always a side effect.
Find out what it is.

Inventor111

I have the Leda struts (non-pressurized) installed on my S2 Cabriolet. I am running 225# at the front and 150# helpers at the rear with OEM torsion bars. Overall, I have been very happy with these shocks. The performance is certainly outstanding - both handling and ride quality.

The very best thing about the Leda's is the very wide range of adjustment. This allows you to run the shocks just slightly underdamped on the street to keep the ride relatively soft, and then stiffen the **** out of them on the weekends for track/autox use.

I believe that Leda manufactures a very high quality product, but keep in mind that these shocks are derived from low-volume racing shock designs. They are not quite as rugged as the shocks from the high-volume suppliers like Koni, Sachs or Bilstein.

Keep in mind that most of the issues I mention here have to do with reliability for street-driven vehicles.

For some reason, I have had the most problem with the right rear shock. Firstly, I had a lot of fitment problems with the helper spring rubbing and rattling against the chassis in 2 places. How annoying!!! This only occurred on the right side.

Then, I had the piston rod at the right rear un-screw from the upper eye TWICE. Then, the lower mounting eye fractured, presumably due to an encounter with an unfriendly railroad crossing. Most recently, I have discovered a lot of hydraulic oil underneath the right rear corner of the S2. I suspect that this coming from the shock.

Firstly, let me say Karl at Racer's Edge has stood behind all of the work to date. I have not spent a cent on repairs, even though it has taken a lot of time to deal with. I am still really sold on these shocks as an awesome blend of ride quality and performance.

Two final points:
Leda has made a change to the uuper shock eye to improve the clearance to the chassis somewhat, but it is still super tight with the helper spring. It will tend to get even tighter as the coil spring rating gets stiffer, even with 2-1/4 ID springs. Be prepared for a little rattling or to do a little grinding. Obviously, without the helper spring the clearance issues go away.

Also, with the coil-overs, the spring can rub on or rattle against the shock body as well, since the clearance is so tight, which causes wear to the threaded body of the shock. We have found that large heat shrink tubing can solve this problem.

Best of luck.