The Baron

#19 '76 Turbo Carrera #0041 Ice Blue
#20 '76 Turbo Carrera #0116 Black
#21 '76 Turbo Carrera #0233 White
#22 '79 Turbo #0960 PTS Slate Grey Metallic
#23 '79 Turbo #1115 Red

UDPride

#24 - 1988

idart930

Wow! Must be nice to have a stable of these U.S. 1970's 930 bookends.

Ghosteh

unbelieveable!
That's like having a car show in your own garage!

lhd7

what we up to? #25

Gofishracing

My old 79 930 purchased by someone in Europe and was shipped to Finland. Great old Dawe car !!!

PoloTurbo

The Baron you have and awesome collection.

Is the gt3 a better experience than a 930?

Gofishracing

930 and earlier GT3 similar experience as it does not have traction control or PSM. Both are driver's machines. GT3 has ABS and power steering. The maintainance cost lower and reliability of the GT3 has been higher than the 930 but I hammered on the 930 for 13 years. Both are wonderful machines. I guess I'd say its the same thing in another form. As i age the GT3 became a better choice but there is nothing to compare to the raw thrill and power of the 930.

Edgy01

The higher attrition rate is most likely due to a few simple factors:

(1) Many early owners didn't know how to drive something tail heavy with a lot of HP--and totaled them;
(2) Many early owners didn't drive them much (trying to keep them as collectibles) and from lack of use became hellish nightmares to fix, ultimately snatched up by someone for a good price, before they went out and totaled them from lack of experience.

The bottom line: Drive them if you have them!

Matsuzaka

I heard or read somewhere that the 911 Turbo still holds the record for people wrecking their car on the first day of ownership!

idart930

This might be true, especially for the U.S. ’76-79 930’s where explosive turbo boost and narrower rear wheels/tires caused a few mishaps. Part of these stories were bolstered by period 1970’s articles on the 930.

Aug 79 Car and Driver, “Turbo Car vs. Turbo Bike”. Noted by Danny Ongais

"I have it on good authority that more than 40 percent of the Turbos sold by one West Coast dealership have been crashed backwards."



In the “Porsche of Great Price”, editorial by Patrick Bedard (Feb 80, Car and Driver), the late Al Holbert discusses the attribution rate as well:

“One thing that should help boost value, however, is the constantly shrinking number of Turbos in circulation. When they first came out, you’d hear stories of their being wrecked on the way home from the showroom. Holbert heard those stories too. Did he believe them? Well you know what happens when you get into an expressway ramp too fast and you take your foot off the gas.” he answered. But he doubted that very many-more than 150 altogether-had been written off. Most of the wrecks are fixed, a body man can do a lot of heating and beating for the over $40,000 replacement cost. Thefts are another matter, however, and there isn’t another car in these United States that can match the Turbo’s popularity with Midnight Auto. The very first one in the county, which was put into the press fleet in Los Angeles, was stolen within a few weeks of arrival. The Porsche+Audi head office in Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey, has lost two company Turbos off the back lot. Where all these Turbos end up. I don’t know. Holbert says there is not market for engines and transmissions because they don’t blow up much, so he figures the cars all go to South American or somewhere else where the FBI can’t see."

There’s no question the attrition rate for 930’s is very high due to theft, wrecks and examples leaving the U.S. It may be much higher for the ’76-79’s - amazing when you consider how expensive these cars were back then.

Matsuzaka

I owned an 88 Carrera for five years and I think you can really feel a noticeable difference in handling between it and my 930. Abrupt change in the throttle position during a corner upsets the 930 much more, I thought the Carrera was relatively benign in that regard. My mechanic tells me it's due to the added weight in the tail and the fact that the engine is mounted 3 inches further back in the 930.

Mac

blackboy

There is one less as of Oct.29 2012 as my 88' Turbo drowned in my garage due to Sandy.

green

# 26

green

sorry to hear blackboy.