930 Intercooler Needed
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In my humble opinion the best ones have nice smooth cast inlet and outlets. Not a bunch of welded abrupt angles to inhibit airflow.
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We just had another 930 slant nose owners come into the shop with a K 27, stock air intake 1 bar spring and stock intercooler set-up. At this point we baseline Dynoed his car and then Swapped the Fabspeed Long Neck intercooler in the car. The car with no other changes picked up big reliable power. Alex and Bob Bell a former Porsche dealer trained machanic did all the testing.
The factory intercooler and recirculation whirler are very very restrictive versus my Fabspeed flow bench tested intercooler. The factory intercooler and any intercooler with O Rings presents many easy areas for leakage of boost. Trust me its true and name one company that is using O rings since the
1970s on intercoolers. O Rings are ancient history and early 1900 design and sloppy. Why bother sticking with O rings on any Porsche intercooler as there is no advantage whatsover and actually only disadvantages.
Andial intercoolers were made by Bob Garretson. Kokelyn were made in Japan but discontinued as I tried to buy the rights and tooling. After a 2010 complete innovative approach we designed the ultimate intercooler with all the latest 965 C2 Turbo style sealing along with other improvements. Come by the new Fabspeed shop and see everything for yourself.
Alex will be releasing Dyno results on the 930S build that is underway. WE are only installing an intercooler and documented those Dyno results and then air intake, and then headers with Dyno versus stock and lastly rear dual outlet muffler.
I love my 930 too.
The factory intercooler and recirculation whirler are very very restrictive versus my Fabspeed flow bench tested intercooler. The factory intercooler and any intercooler with O Rings presents many easy areas for leakage of boost. Trust me its true and name one company that is using O rings since the
1970s on intercoolers. O Rings are ancient history and early 1900 design and sloppy. Why bother sticking with O rings on any Porsche intercooler as there is no advantage whatsover and actually only disadvantages.
Andial intercoolers were made by Bob Garretson. Kokelyn were made in Japan but discontinued as I tried to buy the rights and tooling. After a 2010 complete innovative approach we designed the ultimate intercooler with all the latest 965 C2 Turbo style sealing along with other improvements. Come by the new Fabspeed shop and see everything for yourself.
Alex will be releasing Dyno results on the 930S build that is underway. WE are only installing an intercooler and documented those Dyno results and then air intake, and then headers with Dyno versus stock and lastly rear dual outlet muffler.
I love my 930 too.
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We just had another 930 slant nose owners come into the shop with a K 27, stock air intake 1 bar spring and stock intercooler set-up. At this point we baseline Dynoed his car and then Swapped the Fabspeed Long Neck intercooler in the car. The car with no other changes picked up big reliable power. Alex and Bob Bell a former Porsche dealer trained machanic did all the testing.
The factory intercooler and recirculation whirler are very very restrictive versus my Fabspeed flow bench tested intercooler. The factory intercooler and any intercooler with O Rings presents many easy areas for leakage of boost. Trust me its true and name one company that is using O rings since the
1970s on intercoolers. O Rings are ancient history and early 1900 design and sloppy. Why bother sticking with O rings on any Porsche intercooler as there is no advantage whatsover and actually only disadvantages.
Andial intercoolers were made by Bob Garretson. Kokelyn were made in Japan but discontinued as I tried to buy the rights and tooling. After a 2010 complete innovative approach we designed the ultimate intercooler with all the latest 965 C2 Turbo style sealing along with other improvements. Come by the new Fabspeed shop and see everything for yourself.
Alex will be releasing Dyno results on the 930S build that is underway. WE are only installing an intercooler and documented those Dyno results and then air intake, and then headers with Dyno versus stock and lastly rear dual outlet muffler.
I love my 930 too.
The factory intercooler and recirculation whirler are very very restrictive versus my Fabspeed flow bench tested intercooler. The factory intercooler and any intercooler with O Rings presents many easy areas for leakage of boost. Trust me its true and name one company that is using O rings since the
1970s on intercoolers. O Rings are ancient history and early 1900 design and sloppy. Why bother sticking with O rings on any Porsche intercooler as there is no advantage whatsover and actually only disadvantages.
Andial intercoolers were made by Bob Garretson. Kokelyn were made in Japan but discontinued as I tried to buy the rights and tooling. After a 2010 complete innovative approach we designed the ultimate intercooler with all the latest 965 C2 Turbo style sealing along with other improvements. Come by the new Fabspeed shop and see everything for yourself.
Alex will be releasing Dyno results on the 930S build that is underway. WE are only installing an intercooler and documented those Dyno results and then air intake, and then headers with Dyno versus stock and lastly rear dual outlet muffler.
I love my 930 too.
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We just had another 930 slant nose owners come into the shop with a K 27, stock air intake 1 bar spring and stock intercooler set-up. At this point we baseline Dynoed his car and then Swapped the Fabspeed Long Neck intercooler in the car. The car with no other changes picked up big reliable power. Alex and Bob Bell a former Porsche dealer trained machanic did all the testing.
The factory intercooler and recirculation whirler are very very restrictive versus my Fabspeed flow bench tested intercooler. The factory intercooler and any intercooler with O Rings presents many easy areas for leakage of boost. Trust me its true and name one company that is using O rings since the
1970s on intercoolers. O Rings are ancient history and early 1900 design and sloppy. Why bother sticking with O rings on any Porsche intercooler as there is no advantage whatsover and actually only disadvantages.
Andial intercoolers were made by Bob Garretson. Kokelyn were made in Japan but discontinued as I tried to buy the rights and tooling. After a 2010 complete innovative approach we designed the ultimate intercooler with all the latest 965 C2 Turbo style sealing along with other improvements. Come by the new Fabspeed shop and see everything for yourself.
Alex will be releasing Dyno results on the 930S build that is underway. WE are only installing an intercooler and documented those Dyno results and then air intake, and then headers with Dyno versus stock and lastly rear dual outlet muffler.
I love my 930 too.
The factory intercooler and recirculation whirler are very very restrictive versus my Fabspeed flow bench tested intercooler. The factory intercooler and any intercooler with O Rings presents many easy areas for leakage of boost. Trust me its true and name one company that is using O rings since the
1970s on intercoolers. O Rings are ancient history and early 1900 design and sloppy. Why bother sticking with O rings on any Porsche intercooler as there is no advantage whatsover and actually only disadvantages.
Andial intercoolers were made by Bob Garretson. Kokelyn were made in Japan but discontinued as I tried to buy the rights and tooling. After a 2010 complete innovative approach we designed the ultimate intercooler with all the latest 965 C2 Turbo style sealing along with other improvements. Come by the new Fabspeed shop and see everything for yourself.
Alex will be releasing Dyno results on the 930S build that is underway. WE are only installing an intercooler and documented those Dyno results and then air intake, and then headers with Dyno versus stock and lastly rear dual outlet muffler.
I love my 930 too.
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Hey Guys, sorry for the delay. This 930 Project is lots of fun and fully of surprises that we are happy to announce. I will be doing a full project thread about it which i will try to start tomorrow.
But this 1989 all black 930 Slant nose arrived here a few weeks ago for our Full package and more. We have Dyno data on it before and after of the Intercooler upgrade, Intake and full performance package with K27 Turbo upgrade.
Happy to say, the Fabspeed Intercooler upgrade made a +30 HP and +27 Ft. lbs of Torque overall. The best part is it made +10 HP/+26 TQ at 4000 RPM and +38HP/+44 TQ at 4500 RPM. The power gains were amazing over the stock intercooler setup and really shown the value of our Intercooler upgrade. We did discover the stock airbox on this car did have a small leak in one of the auxiliary hoses and in one of the airbox intake lines, so the gains may be just a little off but our technician said they were very minor and wouldn't have had that much of an effect on the power results. This car already had a K27 Turbo Upgrade on it so it was looking for increased flow and cooling which could have also effected the power results. We had air blowing on both intercoolers in the same position on all runs that we have done on this car. So looking at all these factors, the intercooler still made a huge improvement over stock and really made the car run better and more efficient.
We documented the entire installation process of all the products and will be releasing the new information in the next week or so. We have made updates to the oil line setup on all 930 Slantnose cars which will resolve the oil line dilemma which I know many customers have been waiting for. We will now be providing an entirely new oil line with the 180 degree hard line elbow to come off the thermostat. The new thread will be providing up close pictures of everything and Dyno results. Let me know if anyone has any questions and PM if you need anything at all. Here is the Dyno on the intercooler attached.
Stock Vs Fabspeed Dyno Result:
But this 1989 all black 930 Slant nose arrived here a few weeks ago for our Full package and more. We have Dyno data on it before and after of the Intercooler upgrade, Intake and full performance package with K27 Turbo upgrade.
Happy to say, the Fabspeed Intercooler upgrade made a +30 HP and +27 Ft. lbs of Torque overall. The best part is it made +10 HP/+26 TQ at 4000 RPM and +38HP/+44 TQ at 4500 RPM. The power gains were amazing over the stock intercooler setup and really shown the value of our Intercooler upgrade. We did discover the stock airbox on this car did have a small leak in one of the auxiliary hoses and in one of the airbox intake lines, so the gains may be just a little off but our technician said they were very minor and wouldn't have had that much of an effect on the power results. This car already had a K27 Turbo Upgrade on it so it was looking for increased flow and cooling which could have also effected the power results. We had air blowing on both intercoolers in the same position on all runs that we have done on this car. So looking at all these factors, the intercooler still made a huge improvement over stock and really made the car run better and more efficient.
We documented the entire installation process of all the products and will be releasing the new information in the next week or so. We have made updates to the oil line setup on all 930 Slantnose cars which will resolve the oil line dilemma which I know many customers have been waiting for. We will now be providing an entirely new oil line with the 180 degree hard line elbow to come off the thermostat. The new thread will be providing up close pictures of everything and Dyno results. Let me know if anyone has any questions and PM if you need anything at all. Here is the Dyno on the intercooler attached.
Stock Vs Fabspeed Dyno Result:
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Very nice numbers (about 370hp at da crank)!
FS quality is outstanding.
Re the oil line, instead of a new hard line, how about a braided line w dual 90 degree ends for slants and the regular braided for non slants?
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Re the oil line, instead of a new hard line, how about a braided line w dual 90 degree ends for slants and the regular braided for non slants?
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HI Chris
It is Joe @ Fabspeed Mototsports USA
we have my factory 930 Slantnose in here and a copy in which I belive they used all factory USA parts up to and including the passengers side oil-cooler. WE are designing and manufacturing an adpater oiline so USA Slantnose owners can install headers and a new oiline with no custom work.
Waiting for my AeroQuip supplier to complete the samples and then I have to approve it before a limited production.
FABSPEED MOTORSPORTS USA OPEN House this weekend. Saturday 10/13/2012 rain date Sunday 2 Slantnose 930 Turbos will be on Display
It is Joe @ Fabspeed Mototsports USA
we have my factory 930 Slantnose in here and a copy in which I belive they used all factory USA parts up to and including the passengers side oil-cooler. WE are designing and manufacturing an adpater oiline so USA Slantnose owners can install headers and a new oiline with no custom work.
Waiting for my AeroQuip supplier to complete the samples and then I have to approve it before a limited production.
FABSPEED MOTORSPORTS USA OPEN House this weekend. Saturday 10/13/2012 rain date Sunday 2 Slantnose 930 Turbos will be on Display
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Alex/Joe, are you saying that on an '89 930S running a K27, by swapping out ONLY the factory IC for your IC, the end result was a 33hp/27tq improvement over max hp/tq, at the wheels?
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Hi the dyno results were true rear wheel horsepower torque after we installed the parts on the car. I bet the stock inter cooler o rings were leaking as all o rings are 1940 design. Each and every after market high performance long neck (only a long neck intercooler should be installed as an upgrade on a 930) has had defective uninspired o rings just like factory parts.
I also designed deck lid sealing gaskets like Porsche did so air does not simply take the path of lest resistance and run around intercooler core.
Only fabspeed Motorsport eliminated the o rings and used 965 C2 turbo style hoses with Zero possible boost leakage . I bought a keokelen and improved upon it by major leaps after consulting with 930 934 engine builders and simply knowing that o rings are terrible and obsolete since the 1940s
Anyone can feel free to stop by and see our inter coolers mounted on a 930 engine and see one on my car with shrouds installed too.
Fabspeed Motorsport open house october 12 Saturday shop tour food music dyno testing see and meet our people. Car show to benefit charity Porsche Ferrari mclaren Aston Martin Bentley Lamborghini
I also designed deck lid sealing gaskets like Porsche did so air does not simply take the path of lest resistance and run around intercooler core.
Only fabspeed Motorsport eliminated the o rings and used 965 C2 turbo style hoses with Zero possible boost leakage . I bought a keokelen and improved upon it by major leaps after consulting with 930 934 engine builders and simply knowing that o rings are terrible and obsolete since the 1940s
Anyone can feel free to stop by and see our inter coolers mounted on a 930 engine and see one on my car with shrouds installed too.
Fabspeed Motorsport open house october 12 Saturday shop tour food music dyno testing see and meet our people. Car show to benefit charity Porsche Ferrari mclaren Aston Martin Bentley Lamborghini
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Here is one installed in my car. K27/29, Fabspeed exhaust, headers, air intake and intercooler. 393 rwhp, 457 rwtq. She was running a little lean so we couldn't go past 5500 rpm. We're adjusting the Leask WUR to get more fuel up top. I will post the updated sheet after we get 11.5 afr at 6500 rpm. The car weighs 2671 with no driver.
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