930 vs 350Z
01-14-2006, 02:33 AM
#2
350z
We've compared one to a 996 on the track and while the 350z is a great car to drive, it's mechanicals let it down, especially the brakes. The brakes were the cars biggest fault compared with our Ferrari and the 996. Massive brake fade and we had a decent driver in the 350z.
The 350z had pretty severe brake issues post track day. The rear pads had disintegrated (which is way wierd) and the fluid had boiled (ATE). That said, spend 5k on brakes and a brake cooling kit and it's a pretty cool car. The bits are cheap for it compared to p-cars. The Donnybrook instructions reckons 2:00 around BIR in one. Our friend managed 2:04.
Billy
http://www.trackpedia.com
The 350z had pretty severe brake issues post track day. The rear pads had disintegrated (which is way wierd) and the fluid had boiled (ATE). That said, spend 5k on brakes and a brake cooling kit and it's a pretty cool car. The bits are cheap for it compared to p-cars. The Donnybrook instructions reckons 2:00 around BIR in one. Our friend managed 2:04.
Billy
http://www.trackpedia.com
01-14-2006, 10:16 AM
#3
chc,
For starters, the 930 isn't a modern car. It's an old car with old car characteristics and old car character. That's its charm and, depending how you use it, its disadvantage.
If you're thinking of buying a 350Z for your daily car -- to use for everything, all kinds of weather, etc. -- overall it will be superior to the 930 for that purpose. It will probably have warranty for one thing, but will start, idle, run under any conditions, will keep you comfortable in cold or heat and will sit in traffic all day without complaint like a Toyota or any moder car. It will even feel good to drive on the street from what I've read. I'm not sure what the horsepower is but I bet it's more than the 282 of a stock '89 930 like mine (930 torque probably better) so its performance won't be bad either.
I love my 930 for its character in all areas -- the way they built it, it's looks and sound and uniqueness -- and it feels great to drive for the pleasure drives I use it for. But for the everyday grind where the driving is bumper to bumper stop and go, crappy weather, heat (100 degree Dallas days) -- no way I'd consider this for an every day car. It would be uncomfortable as hell, and under those conditions would probably break, fall apart, leak water from the front and real windshields and rust in the windshield corners. The motor would probably need expensive work too as it would cook itself to death in this environment.
Modern cars have come a LONG way from the 70s and 80s in terms of being reliable, comfortable appliances that start and run and do everything without fuss under any conditions. I think we lose sight of that as we fantasize about the older cars we used to love. We imagine driving in these cool looking cars that drive like new ones but neater looking. I've owned a lot of older sports cars. They are wonderful but don't drive like new ones. A 930 isn't like a new 911 Turbo with different looks. It's an old, classic sports car, again it's charm and its disadvantage depending on why you want it. Just make your decision with your eyes wide open.
For starters, the 930 isn't a modern car. It's an old car with old car characteristics and old car character. That's its charm and, depending how you use it, its disadvantage.
If you're thinking of buying a 350Z for your daily car -- to use for everything, all kinds of weather, etc. -- overall it will be superior to the 930 for that purpose. It will probably have warranty for one thing, but will start, idle, run under any conditions, will keep you comfortable in cold or heat and will sit in traffic all day without complaint like a Toyota or any moder car. It will even feel good to drive on the street from what I've read. I'm not sure what the horsepower is but I bet it's more than the 282 of a stock '89 930 like mine (930 torque probably better) so its performance won't be bad either.
I love my 930 for its character in all areas -- the way they built it, it's looks and sound and uniqueness -- and it feels great to drive for the pleasure drives I use it for. But for the everyday grind where the driving is bumper to bumper stop and go, crappy weather, heat (100 degree Dallas days) -- no way I'd consider this for an every day car. It would be uncomfortable as hell, and under those conditions would probably break, fall apart, leak water from the front and real windshields and rust in the windshield corners. The motor would probably need expensive work too as it would cook itself to death in this environment.
Modern cars have come a LONG way from the 70s and 80s in terms of being reliable, comfortable appliances that start and run and do everything without fuss under any conditions. I think we lose sight of that as we fantasize about the older cars we used to love. We imagine driving in these cool looking cars that drive like new ones but neater looking. I've owned a lot of older sports cars. They are wonderful but don't drive like new ones. A 930 isn't like a new 911 Turbo with different looks. It's an old, classic sports car, again it's charm and its disadvantage depending on why you want it. Just make your decision with your eyes wide open.
01-14-2006, 11:26 AM
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I am sorry but this is a useless post...
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I have had a lot of seat time in a 350Z and it is a great car that you can drive every day, peppy, nice handling, comfy and reliable. In fact I almost bought one...I did buy a 930 so that answers that.
The 350Z would make a great daily driver and occasional track car but to compare it to a 930 is out of line. I agree with Jastx's comments.
And bnewport to compare a lowly 350Z with a Ferrari or Porsche on braking..c'mon man, what is with that? Let's see $30,000 Nissan to $125,000+ Supercar with calipers and rotors so big they need their own Zip Code. Try the 350ZTrack Model with the Brembo Brake package that might be a better comparo...but still the 350Z Track Model is still *only* a $35K car....sheesh
Yasin
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I have had a lot of seat time in a 350Z and it is a great car that you can drive every day, peppy, nice handling, comfy and reliable. In fact I almost bought one...I did buy a 930 so that answers that.
The 350Z would make a great daily driver and occasional track car but to compare it to a 930 is out of line. I agree with Jastx's comments.
And bnewport to compare a lowly 350Z with a Ferrari or Porsche on braking..c'mon man, what is with that? Let's see $30,000 Nissan to $125,000+ Supercar with calipers and rotors so big they need their own Zip Code. Try the 350ZTrack Model with the Brembo Brake package that might be a better comparo...but still the 350Z Track Model is still *only* a $35K car....sheesh
Yasin
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01-15-2006, 03:40 PM
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My dads got a 350z. Id much rather be driving my 944 turbo then his 350z.. so Im going to assume that a 930 would be even better. BUT, in terms of reliablity, theres no question.
01-16-2006, 11:57 AM
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Thats where you guys are wrong...the 350Z will be very reliable as it gets older, that is an integral part of Nissan's success building the Z sports cars - is that they are reliable even with 150K + miles on the odo.
Yasin
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01-16-2006, 12:06 PM
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The 300ZX (whichever model came before the 350Z) is the one I love! Much the same way I prefer the Mazda RX7 that preceeded the RX8. I just don't care for the latest iterations. Not trying to hate...just my personal preference. I'm still amazed that this thread even exists, and that I actually "clicked" on it!
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01-16-2006, 04:42 PM
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On the upside they cost less then a new Intercooler 
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