Anyone running one? Also, what the differance between the Kokeln club turbo and the K27 7200 turbo? Yeah I know it depends on what trim, hot side, etc. but generally speaking how do they compaire.

 

I think they use Garrets

 

They use a Garrett cross section and close the oil line down. This will create long term issues with the reliability of the turbo. Comparing a stock 7200 and spool times to any larger turbo will be a unfair comparison. There are trade offs in every area. The 7200 spools very quickly and can support about 450HP. Hard to beat for the price.

 

I've heard about the Garrett's having a tendency to blow a little oil and some of the 951 guys placing a allen screw with a hole drilled in it on the oil inlet side of the turbo in order to reduce pressure. I'm running a TO4E 60 trim #8 hot side without a oil restricter on my 951 and right now not having any oiling problems. I can see how such a restriction of oil could cause long term/ reliability issues and think I would rather live with a little puff of smoke rather than buying a new turbo every year.

 

That is not near the same system though. The 951 dumps oil back into the pan verses the 930 has to sump the oil back to the case. The issue becomes if you do not close the line down you will back oil into the system and look like Captain Hazelwood rolling down the street. The turbo on the 930 is below the oil level verses the 951 which is above. This is the reason you don't need to take the same precautions as the 930.

 

Jim, I'll butt in here and add my .02...

Turbo options for the 951 appear to be wide and varied. There are folks running all sorts of sizes and brand/combos with good results.

Not so much with the 930's. Most guys stick with a few tried and true favorites. I think it has to do with extra heat where the turbo sits, and the oiling issue being so critical... i.e., lubrication AND cooling.

The "old" K27-7200 is a favorite due it's quick spool characteristics - it's what I have. They seem to work best for stock to mildly modified, mostly street cars..
There have been some others come and go for higher HP motors, but the new favorite is the K27 "High Flow". A K27 based turbo with new technology added.
Stephen will correct me if I'm off base...

Folks have tried variants and Garrett hybrids, but the costs of making a mistake are higher with the 930's as you now know... I think most folks here tend to not experiment as much.

 

K27 High Flow S!!! Can hardly wait until it arrives!

 

Thanks for the schooling guys.

 

yes a k27hfs and a set of 964 cams seems like i have been waiting forever hope they get here soon

 

The K27HF is an awesome turbo, which spools like the older K27-7200, but flows 100 more hP!

I'm selling my low mileage K27HF for $1k if anyone is interested. Looking for more HP potential.

 

ProtoCab,
E-mail my friend whose looking to buy this turbo at patrick@waggie.com.sg

 

ProtoCab, are you running EFI?

By the way, most used Hyflows are getting around $1,200.00.

 

ProtoCab, you got a PM.

 

Yup, I run the OEM Carrera Motronics EFI

Sameer, I e-mailed Patrick a while ago. He's only looking to spend a few hundred dollars. He won't find one with such low mileage for that amount!

I think $1k is a really good deal! I could sell for a bit more, but I want to sell asap to fund a bigger Turbonetics unit.

 

A few hundred bucks is a joke.