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I do not profess to be a longhood 911 expert, but I have questions and you fine folks probably have answers. Mostly regarding build specs/standard/optional stuff on a 1973 911T. I'll go thru my questions one by one.
1. The COA states the car has no optional 5-speed transmission, however the engine/chassis specifies that it does (915/02) have the 5spd as standard equipment. PCNA has confirmed (several times in fact) that there is no record of the 5-spd being ordered as an option, but it was in fact built with a 5-spd tranny. The Kardex basically shows the 5-spd as the base tranny.
QUESTION: My understanding was all 5-spds were extra cost options on 1973 911T models. Is this inaccurate? Were some parts of the country given 911Ts with 5-spds are no cost? This car was originally sold in CT and I can confirm the car was bought new with a 5spd in it.
2. Steel wheels standard on 1973 911Ts.
QUESTION: Were they standard fare and no-cost? I have read through countless period literature, and other documents and they all conflict about this one way or another. You could also get the cookie cutter type wheels or the Fuchs but I thought the Cookies were one upgrade and the Fuchs the biggie forged upgrade on the T, but standard on the E and S.
3. The car came with the "Comfort Package" aka Appearance Group which got you 911S gauges, some steel accents, and a few other items. In some Porsche literature however I see Fuchs as part of this package.
QUESTION: Were Fuchs part of the Comfort/Appearance Group? PCNA has confirmed no Fuchs came on the car. The reason I ask is the car was a dealer demo and had Fuchs on it in the showroom, but were swapped back to steel wheels before the sale. Im hoping it was just a case of the dealer "spiffying up" the wheels with Fuchs that were lying around the dealership.
4. Radio options on 1973 911T.
QUESTION: Was a radio standard? The car has an antenna and speakers, but no COA record of a radio. PCNA has doublechecked and confirmed. Once again, conflicting info in period Porsche literature on this for 911Ts. The car had a Becker Mexico in it in the showroom, but it was swapped out for a lesser Becker when it was sold. From what I can see, the Mexico was super high-end at the time and likely another "dealer tweak" after they got the car? If the car came with no radio, it might make sense that they did this. The dealer put about 1700 miles on the car before it was sold and titled.
The long/short is PCNA/COA says the car came with a 5spd as standard, no wheel upgrade other than what would be standard (which is?), and no radio (other than what might have been standard or not).
I might have some more questions, but right now the tranny, wheels, and radio issue are what needs clarity.
A 4 speed was the standard transmission is all 911's except RS in 1973- almost all them had optional 5 speeds.
In 73 T was available with steels wheels (stock) or Cookie cutter or Fuchs
The appearance package was S wide decos, gages etc.
If car came with an antenna than it would have come with a radio- there were several models available in 1973.
The COA's are not usable as a definitive build sheet as they are known to be rife with errors. You really need a Kardex - not easy to come by if you want to know for sure how car was built.
Yes I understand the COAs are not reliable. But PCNA has checked three times now and no 4spd option is on the car, yet the build sheet spec clearly specifies it as part of the base build. So if I understand -- under NO circumstances was a 5spd ever standard on a 911T for 1973? No matter the locale in the USA, etc? Ive seen the original bill of sale on the car and it does not reference a 5spd as an option anywhere (even though the car has one).
Ive read people say 1973 cars were built with antennas and two or four speaker locations, but not prepped for a radio. Any truth to this? I have heard it called a "Radio Trim Kit".
Because Im trying to authenticate the originality of a specific car and what the original bill of sale, PCNA, and general period literature from Porsche are saying are all conflicting with one another.
Phil is correct except for the antenna. Many cars came into the US without radios, but with a radio installation kit fitted at the factory, included antenna, speaker and suppressor. That way the dealer could install his own radio, or leave the car without one for the customer to install one. That is how my S came.
you may want to edit line 2 of your OP so people trying to help are not confused
Oops. Sorry about that. Fixed.
Im thinking the 911T in question Im looking into never came with a factory radio and was fitted as rstarga suggests.
Im also thinking the steel wheels were standard, and well, Im still scratching my head on the 5spd as to why it was built with one but not "ordered" with one. Im thinking this is a PCNA records issue. But the original bill of sale lists no 5spd added. But if no 5spd "E"s were ever delivered as a standard tranny, then it had to have been originally ordered that way and all the paperwork is simply lacking in this regard.
does the transmission number on your car match the transmission number on the COA?
My 67S was ordered and delivered new in germany but for a north american customer.
Therefore it came with an antenna but no radio. Came with emergency flashers for north american compliance which shows it was intended to end up in USA.
Radio was to be dealer installed in USA when it arrived.
02-22-2017, 05:55 PM
1973 911T Questions
