Please help me understand the 3.2 market
#1
Burning Brakes
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Please help me understand the 3.2 market
Over the past few weeks I have been noticing how beautiful and classic the 3.2 Carrera is, and how they represent one of the more affordable air-cooled Porsches. Normally I am not interested in a cabriolet, but I think they are gorgeous in this generation especially with blue or linen interior. I notice there a lots of GP white and guards red samples out there, but the blues and grays are awesome. Any experts able to give me some thinking points on this car? Coupe vs. cabriolet? There is a great cab in MO at a classic car dealer, but no matter how I slice it, I can't figure out how they are getting to 75k+ for a 26k mile cabriolet.. Is this standard for a dealer? Are they really expecting that price? Beyond even Hagerty's concourse values.
So far I think an 88 or 89 g50 in coupe or cab are my front runners. Would love to hear thoughts from veteran owners. I'm looking for the "involved" manual flat six driving experience and a touch of classic looks.
So far I think an 88 or 89 g50 in coupe or cab are my front runners. Would love to hear thoughts from veteran owners. I'm looking for the "involved" manual flat six driving experience and a touch of classic looks.
#2
Fastdiablo, if you are talking about Daniel Schmitt's dealership I can say a few things about the "sister car" to the one you may be considering. I bought my car there in April. Post again if you are talking about the matalic blue 1988 that they have for sale there. I do not wish to get into details if we are not talking about the same car/dealership. You can see a picture of the "sister car," to the one you may be talking about, if you look at one of my previous posts. Regards.
And by the way, my dealings with Daniel Schmitt's was very good.
And by the way, my dealings with Daniel Schmitt's was very good.
#3
Burning Brakes
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Yessir, that's the one. Love to understand how they price vehicles and/or how they negotiate. I'm a real buyer, but since I'm new to the market I'm not understanding their justification above Hagertys concourse value. Love to hear about your car too. Pics or it didn't happen!
#4
Rennlist Member
Their justification is undoubtedly the low mileage. Hagerty's values are based on condition but do not take mileage into account. That's okay to the extent that condition is usually dependent at least partially on how much use the car has seen, but the market (meaning buyers) place a premium on low mileage when comparing cars with similar condition. In this particular case, though, even with the low mileage I think the asking price is quite optimistic. And THAT is typical for dealers.
#6
It's fun to put the top down at moderate speeds if you don't get sunburned.
Otherwise, a coupe is nicer looking, safer, stiffer for handling, and lasts longer.
A sunroof coupe is the compromise some choose.
G50 cars are worth more because many don't know how to drive a 915.
I'd prefer to buy from a private seller, unless the dealer gives you a real warranty (not the shyster warranties many push).
Otherwise, a coupe is nicer looking, safer, stiffer for handling, and lasts longer.
A sunroof coupe is the compromise some choose.
G50 cars are worth more because many don't know how to drive a 915.
I'd prefer to buy from a private seller, unless the dealer gives you a real warranty (not the shyster warranties many push).
#7
Drifting
Nothing wrong with the G50 but to me a well sorted 915 matches the driving experience of an air cooled 911. It is engaging and more 'mechanical' feeling. Plus it is much lighter. Most 915's haven't been maintained well over the years so the bushings are worn and they are not adjusted properly - this has given them a bad reputation IMHO.
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#9
Having owned two G50 cars (993's) and recently having my 1978 915 rebuilt. I'd choose the 1978 for engagement factor any day. As many have said I think the knock on the 915 comes from 1. the box is in need of a rebuild and 2. The driver does not know how to operate the box. Once one and two have been solved, the decision is easy.....915 IMHO
#10
Normally, when would a 915 need to be tended to? I just bought my 79sc, it sat for 4 years, and I have yet to drive it. The 915 has 100k on it, and to my knowledge, it has never been tinkered with..
#11
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Having owned two G50 cars (993's) and recently having my 1978 915 rebuilt. I'd choose the 1978 for engagement factor any day. As many have said I think the knock on the 915 comes from 1. the box is in need of a rebuild and 2. The driver does not know how to operate the box. Once one and two have been solved, the decision is easy.....915 IMHO
#12
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With respect, you really can't compare the 993 driving experience with that of a 78 SC, as they are such different cars in so many ways that the transmissions are but one minor factor. The only proper comparison is a well set up 915 and a well set up G50 in the 3.2 Carrera, both of which I have owned at the same time. One or the other can be preferred, but the vast majority of those who have driven both overwhelmingly prefer the G50. And THAT is the reason the 87-89 Carreras have higher values than their earlier counterparts. Period.
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