912 to 911
#1
912 to 911
Can somebody link me to the best place for information on converting a 912 to a 911? No doubt this subject has been covered exhaustively somewhere on this forum. I want to determine if it's worth my time and money...unless someone wants to sell me their longhood 911 for cheap
#3
yes, I guess you'd call it a 912-6...
Let me be more specific. I'd like to have an old long hood, but I can't afford $100k+. The 912 has the look and fits my budget, but can I outfit it with an engine and whatever performance upgrades it needs to make it perform like the 911? Is this a reasonable goal, or a fool's errand?
I see that I can buy a rough condition 912 for +- $20k. Sometimes they won't have an engine anyway. Could I spend another $20k and build my long hood 911?
I have access to a shop where the car could live for a couple years, a friend who's a top-notch pipe welder, and he and my other buddy have dropped a few engines in Mustangs and Broncos. As for myself...I don't have their experience, but help them with their auto projects quite a bit. I'm meticulous, patient, adept and most things artistic, not afraid to burn a lot of elbow grease for a good cause.
Let me be more specific. I'd like to have an old long hood, but I can't afford $100k+. The 912 has the look and fits my budget, but can I outfit it with an engine and whatever performance upgrades it needs to make it perform like the 911? Is this a reasonable goal, or a fool's errand?
I see that I can buy a rough condition 912 for +- $20k. Sometimes they won't have an engine anyway. Could I spend another $20k and build my long hood 911?
I have access to a shop where the car could live for a couple years, a friend who's a top-notch pipe welder, and he and my other buddy have dropped a few engines in Mustangs and Broncos. As for myself...I don't have their experience, but help them with their auto projects quite a bit. I'm meticulous, patient, adept and most things artistic, not afraid to burn a lot of elbow grease for a good cause.
#4
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Well then a 912-6 sounds like the perfect car for you. It will be easier than most guys think and more common than many will admit to. There was a running 912 longhood locally a few years back I was very tempted to buy for the same project.
#5
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If I recall, I think Excellence magazine had an article about a Signal Orange 912 converted to a Carrera 3.5 RS. I'm sure it was September 2015. It looked damn sweet! I might still have it at my shop.
Jase.
Jase.
#6
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An old friend's faux 935K3 started as a '66 912, so sure anything is possible.
Bottom line is that it's pretty easy in most basic form--weld in the motor mounts, install oil tank, and use a '69 911 clutch (if the donor car comes with the transaxle). From there, it's all in the details.
(Where is the price of entry on a longhood $100K? You're running 912's condition equivalent cousin in a 911T probably comes out at a near wash, when it's all said and done. And then you have an actual 911 to sell on the back end.)
Finally, how many longhoods have you driven? There's not "all that" when viewed through the prism of today. Sure, I like them as it takes me back to when I was 18, and was running around in my '68. But for someone coming into this new, other than the oohs and aahs at the car meet, an SC (or later) is infinitely better.
Bottom line is that it's pretty easy in most basic form--weld in the motor mounts, install oil tank, and use a '69 911 clutch (if the donor car comes with the transaxle). From there, it's all in the details.
(Where is the price of entry on a longhood $100K? You're running 912's condition equivalent cousin in a 911T probably comes out at a near wash, when it's all said and done. And then you have an actual 911 to sell on the back end.)
Finally, how many longhoods have you driven? There's not "all that" when viewed through the prism of today. Sure, I like them as it takes me back to when I was 18, and was running around in my '68. But for someone coming into this new, other than the oohs and aahs at the car meet, an SC (or later) is infinitely better.
#7
Team Owner
I imagine its just a matter of dropping the engine and gear box and bolting in your replacement one. I had mine out in an hour. There are lots of pelican threads on how to do this.
Then you would probably have to upgrade the brakes and maybe the suspension.
Then you would probably have to upgrade the brakes and maybe the suspension.
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#8
Finally, how many longhoods have you driven? There's not "all that" when viewed through the prism of today. Sure, I like them as it takes me back to when I was 18, and was running around in my '68. But for someone coming into this new, other than the oohs and aahs at the car meet, an SC (or later) is infinitely better.
I've never driven a 911T. But I imagine they drive like I wish my old Beetles would drive. In fact, I'm selling my cherry '61 ragtop to fund a classic Porsche. Wanna buy it?
#10
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Also, FYI, an '80s Carrera does not provide a modern driving experience compared to a 986 / 987; quiet a big difference.
#11
First, an original 912 is a very valuable car.
Second, small bumper 911 are only valuable if they are original.
Third, a $13K Boxster will outperform a $1.2M 2.7 Carrara.
So what is your objective?
If you have a really solid, numbers matching 912, I'd restore it... hot-rods generally sell for 30-50% of build price, if you can even find a buyer.
Second, small bumper 911 are only valuable if they are original.
Third, a $13K Boxster will outperform a $1.2M 2.7 Carrara.
So what is your objective?
If you have a really solid, numbers matching 912, I'd restore it... hot-rods generally sell for 30-50% of build price, if you can even find a buyer.
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With the price of long hood 912s just trailing the 911s, I do not believe it would be wise to do this financially speaking. Yes, people have done it in the past, but that was when the 912s were cheap. The entry level long hood 911s can still be had for reasonable money (not much more than the 912 nowadays), especially if you are willing to get a rolling chassis.
Search this forum, I am sure you will find lots of useful info.
Search this forum, I am sure you will find lots of useful info.