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Why so many 1999 911's for sale?

Old 05-22-2014, 11:26 PM
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I've been looking at 911's and there are a lot of 1999's for sale at what I think is very reasonable. Why is that?
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i would humbly suggest asking on the water coooled 996 forum.
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IMS suck donkey *****, that why.

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cost of repair is greater than the value of the car and the typical seller is just trolling looking for an uninformed buyer. As Jethro Bodine used to say, "naught from naught equals naught". That is the value of a '99.
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They kind of have a bad reputation. However, I had one for a few years and never had a moments problem with it.
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It's because the 996 is the red headed step child of the 911 lineage!
My bro-in-law just bought a real nice used one, for real cheap w/ 40k on the clock. It's a "nice ride", but they are plagued by the hideous front lights, boxster front end and marginal styling over all. They also have had a fair share of IMS and engine failures.
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...gees guys so much for me trying to be politicaly correct.

i guess we can expect the flood of 996 guys anytime soon for another sh!tfest.
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Originally Posted by awhenry
cost of repair is greater than the value of the car and the typical seller is just trolling looking for an uninformed buyer. As Jethro Bodine used to say, "naught from naught equals naught". That is the value of a '99.
What, exact, "cost of repair"? An engine? OK, then we'll put ourselves in Mr. Sherman's WABAC machine and visit a time when 2.7L 911s were 10-15 years old. Remember those times? I do--fixing those engines paid for a good part of law school.

Yes, the intermediate shaft bearing is a problem. More so on the single row chain cars (not the '99s). And it's the bearing, not the shaft.

I wouldn't direct someone toward an M96/7 engined Porsche. Doesn't mean there's a failure rate that was either more common or expensive relative to what happened in years past.
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I owned one for 10 years. It was a daily driver except in the winter. The car was virtually maintenance free for over 50k miles for me. I sold it and the new owner has had the same experience. It's not as well built or have the soul of my '82SC but it is a great car for the price. BTW The owner of my 99 is selling it on Rennlist. If the OP is interested, it's still in perfect condition.
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ugly. I had a 2002 cab. averted my eyes when walking towards it.
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the 1999 was the only year for the 3.4L in the 1999-2004 996 carrera run.

The 996 has suffered questionable appeal and the engines have had mixed reviews.
Trouble is, try finding a replacement 3.4L from an auto wrecker for a 99...

The 996 series was not all bad, the GT2 and GT3 are good performance for the money and the 996 turbo is somewhat of a bargin.

I do not see a 996 in my collection anytime soon however... not unless the GT3 hits the 30s....
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
the 1999 was the only year for the 3.4L in the 1999-2004 996 carrera run.

The 996 has suffered questionable appeal and the engines have had mixed reviews.
Trouble is, try finding a replacement 3.4L from an auto wrecker for a 99...

The 996 series was not all bad, the GT2 and GT3 are good performance for the money and the 996 turbo is somewhat of a bargin.

I do not see a 996 in my collection anytime soon however... not unless the GT3 hits the 30s....
Keeping in mind of course the GT and Turbo cars had different engines than the run of the mill 996 , much beefier and i wouldnt hesitate to own if i liked the looks, but i dont .. awww , never mind ..
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
the 1999 was the only year for the 3.4L in the 1999-2004 996 carrera run.

The 996 has suffered questionable appeal and the engines have had mixed reviews.
Trouble is, try finding a replacement 3.4L from an auto wrecker for a 99...

The 996 series was not all bad, the GT2 and GT3 are good performance for the money and the 996 turbo is somewhat of a bargin.

I do not see a 996 in my collection anytime soon however... not unless the GT3 hits the 30s....
Uh, the '99 3.4L is the only one with a throttle cable. The '00-'01 are 3.4L

Not sure why you'd care about getting a used 3.4L. Just like any 911 engine, you repair what you've got. And when you get the intersection of Cost To Repair and Value Of Hulk As Is, then you decide what you're going to do.

(Amazing to think this was an at least monthly conversation with owners of dead/dying '65-'77 cars in the '80s through the mid '90s. Why spend $6-8K fixing the engine when the car was only worth that repaired. If that. The poster child for the RGruppe, Cris' '69S was such a dead car found in his neighbor's driveway--and neither of us really thought it was worth the $4K ask.)

Originally Posted by theiceman
Keeping in mind of course the GT and Turbo cars had different engines than the run of the mill 996 , much beefier and i wouldnt hesitate to own if i liked the looks, but i dont .. awww , never mind ..
Not a question of "beefier", but wholly different. Kinda like the difference between a Corvair and air cooled 911 engines.
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Would most of you who who really follow the values of these cars believe that the 99 is at or near the bottom of their depreciation curve?

Further, like someone said they are the "Ginger Nut" stepchild in looks. The front end Scrambled Eggs, or is it Fryed Eggs, headlights really hurts its looks.

Personally I don't really mind too much the updated headlights on the newer models. That and the Turbo Is a Bargain, seeing plenty of examples for less than $40,000 with around 50K on the clock. While the GT3s are still held in high esteem being the most valuable of any 996. Just wish Porsche would have imported the RS back then!


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