brake bleeder systems?
08-02-2003, 07:13 PM
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I prefer the pressure bleeding method where pressure is applied to the brake fluid reservoir that allows fluid to flow thru the caliper nipples when loosened. The Motiv bleeder at around $45 seems popular, with a hand pump to provide the pressure - there are others like that too. A UK product, Eezibleed, relies on a tire (I use a bicycle tire) for pressure, and runs around $30, and again there are others like it. I don't know about the Motiv's longevity, however I get around 1 1/2 yrs out of the Eezibleed (maybe 20-25 bleedings) before something wears out. Given that one brake bleeding pays for the equipment, anything after that is, as they say, gravy. FWIW, I've heard mixed results about the vacuum systems that pull brake fluid through the caliper nipple.
08-02-2003, 07:31 PM
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I'll "second" that, too,.... 
IMHO, vacuum bleeding is unsatisfactory & unreliable for cars. Pressure bleeding is the only way to go especially now that such devices are no longer expensive.
We have two Snap-On bleeders, one roll-around shop model and one portable one.
Both are excellent as well as the much less expensive Motive one.
IMHO, vacuum bleeding is unsatisfactory & unreliable for cars. Pressure bleeding is the only way to go especially now that such devices are no longer expensive.
We have two Snap-On bleeders, one roll-around shop model and one portable one.
Both are excellent as well as the much less expensive Motive one.
08-02-2003, 11:23 PM
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www.motiveproducts.com
I like theirs, especially for the porsche / import, where the lid to the reservoir is screwed on and not some funky 'adapter'.
Problem with the vacuum pumps is, that you need a real good seal between your bleeder and the caliper. If there is any air sucked in between the bleeder's threads and the caliper, it literally sucks - air and no brake fluid.
I can't say anything about the motive bleeder's longlivety. I had mine only a few months but used it quite a lot. It looks well made for the money it costs.
Cheers, George
I like theirs, especially for the porsche / import, where the lid to the reservoir is screwed on and not some funky 'adapter'.
Problem with the vacuum pumps is, that you need a real good seal between your bleeder and the caliper. If there is any air sucked in between the bleeder's threads and the caliper, it literally sucks - air and no brake fluid.
I can't say anything about the motive bleeder's longlivety. I had mine only a few months but used it quite a lot. It looks well made for the money it costs.
Cheers, George
08-03-2003, 04:26 PM
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Pressure bleeders seem to be more popular but remember to squeeze off reservoir breather tube or have fluid all over the floor! I believe any system is OK providing it is applied correctly and the system is bled in the right order.
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08-04-2003, 02:35 AM
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Speed bleeders or self bleeders are nice, but you will still use your master cylinder to bleed. You can hurt it by pushing it beyond it's usual operating range, messing up the seals. Pressure bleeiding is the preferred method, especially if your master clyinder isn't a spring chicken any more. Check this post (number 81121) to see what can happen:
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...threadid=81121
Cheers, George
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...threadid=81121
Cheers, George