salukijac

Doug, I'm not sure I follow your rationale. I didn't know a pre-requisite to owning a Porsche is doing you're own work. What's the difference with going to CPR and ordering a ground up restoration? Is the value of the car now not worthy because someone else did the job? So he has his own guys to execute his vision.

I think what ICE is saying is that it was Magnum's car...he sold it to someone and that person now is trying to capitalize on Magnum's aura. The dude has some serious cars...you can't deny that.

And his cars are not made to look something that they're not, they are by definition a hot rod...no rules...and btw, they perform.

MUSSBERGER

I'm going to paint my wheels black, put a mismatch color on the front and rear bumpers. Instantly my $25k race car becomes a $75k Magnus tribute.

Kaching!

Amber Gramps

Read the first paragraph of the ad.

Regarding CPR. They have been in business for decades and have restored hundreds of concourse worthy cars. They have a warehouse full of cars awaiting restoration (one old German there told me enough cars to last them ten years). They are for real. I've taken the tour and spent hours drooling on the cars in all stages of the process.

Mangus??? Well.... we get videos of him breaking laws on public roads.


Saluki, 90% of the joy I derive from the car is the pride of doing my own work. The vast majority of the guys that hang out here are their own wrench. I thought the whole point of customizing a hot rod was putting your own signature on it. Making it your own. Paying someone else to do the work is just foreign to me.

I suspect the path this car took is very close to the business model Mangus has been pursuing all along. Much like Singer, or Ruf, or Shelby, or Rouch, or many others, the idea is to take someone else' product, polish it up a bit with your own "touch", create a buzz around it, and sell it at high retail. It's fine to do, just be honest about it.

salukijac

What about it? '...his team started work on the car...' Just like anyone buying a car and send it to FHernadez for a backdate...which by the way are gorgeous cars.

My point to you about CPR is that they do the work for customers. In this case Magnum is the customer, he has his own team doing the work, it doesn't devalue the fact that he didn't get his hands dirty in the process. They are his vision like anyone else's that commisions a shop to execute theirs.

I think you came a little strong because you worked on your car and you said he didn't...all of the sudden his cars are not valuable?? Apparently they are, people like them and are willing to pay the dough for them.

Reiver

I know you have a nice car...my only point is a full resto with mechanical upgrades on a '72 is going to cost you close to what that guy is asking if you include the purchase price.

Amber Gramps

Read the ad. The guy bought it, had Mangus do his thing, shipped it to the Netherlands, where he swapped out the motor, crashed it, changed the paint color, changed out the bumpers, put different stickers on it, and generally moved it away from what Mangus had done. Really my beef isn't with Mangus, it's with the owner that paid Mangus a premium to do something that he then changed in short order and still wants to claim it was one of Mangus' cars when it wasn't.

Amber Gramps

Sorry, I'll go huff some paint or something.

My Bilstein struts are ready for tape removal.

Reiver

My bad, didn't read the whole deal and you have a point.
My argument would only stand if, it was in fact, a properly restored '72.
You can still huff some tho if you are of a mind to.

Amber Gramps

porsche2fst4u

Magnus Walker's cars are works of art. Like most art, they can seem overpriced. Like expensive pieces of art, the average person can't afford it. Magnus is just living the dream and sharing his passion for Porsche with others.

rfloz

Yeah, he should be busted. For, oh, I don't know, maybe "exhibition of speed".

Question - how much work do I have to do myself to hang on to my P-card? Oil changes and brakes enough? Does stripping 350 ugly pounds off the car do it? Prolly not. Excuse me while I go forge a crank or something.

User 4621

Hmmm, that's about $122K.

I've been thinking about an F-car so I'll sell my even nicer car for $100K cash. It's a bargain, jump on it before I change my mind.

rusnak

Doug...exactly. He likes to pose with dirty rags and shows himself moving tires like at a race track. But the guy is a checkbook mechanic. To me, that makes him just this side of a rich hobbyist. I relate more to guys who get dirty for their car, not for their image.

rusnak

In his Outlaw whatever B.S. video, he shoots himself speeding through the streets of downtown L.A. while openly talking about how the same neighborhood has become a residential area with small children and families living there.

How do you feel about that? In my book, that sort of "outlaw" thing makes us ALL LOOK BAD. I don't need to associate with such needless egomaniacal, attention *****, irresponsible, self-righteous and self-gratifying behavior.

It grates me even more when he says "Get out and drive". What an *******. I put more miles on my Porsches than he does. I have at least a half million miles total in the past 20 years. Yes, they are daily drivers for me.

rfloz

Well, the "exhibition of speed" remark was a tongue in check reference to another Rennlister who apparently forgot his own transgressions in that regard.

Personally, I drive no faster than conditions permit. Conditions include road, traffic, car and self. My last speeding ticket was circa 1980.

As to Magnus, I was behind him on one of the canyon runs that seem to occur from time to time and he drove quickly, but competently, and left a good margin of error in case the unexpected arose. I suspect his filmic antics are part of his P.T. Barnum shtick and don't recommend such.