1974 coupe, am thinking of buying, any advice?
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1974 coupe, am thinking of buying, any advice?
There is a 1974 Coupe fairly close to me that I have looked at briefly, and can get a drive in tomorrow.
Car was resprayed black over an original yellow. There are a few places you can tell.
Car shows 68k Mi but not original engine.
Engine is a 2.7L
Engine shows leaking lowever valve covers.
Car has front driver side oil cooler in the wheel well.
Fuchs wheels look good.
Interior needs some help
There is a crack in the dash pad and the dash vent looks to be bent out of shape.
No sunroof
Owner says the exhaust is stainless, but I used a magnet and it sure is magnetic.
I had a look through my buyers guide (I own a 964) and didn't find much for the year. Is there anything that I should look out for in this particular year?
Peter
Car was resprayed black over an original yellow. There are a few places you can tell.
Car shows 68k Mi but not original engine.
Engine is a 2.7L
Engine shows leaking lowever valve covers.
Car has front driver side oil cooler in the wheel well.
Fuchs wheels look good.
Interior needs some help
There is a crack in the dash pad and the dash vent looks to be bent out of shape.
No sunroof
Owner says the exhaust is stainless, but I used a magnet and it sure is magnetic.
I had a look through my buyers guide (I own a 964) and didn't find much for the year. Is there anything that I should look out for in this particular year?
Peter
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PPI by someone thoroughly schooled in that vintage is absolutely mandatory. If you have my book be sure to read about the 1974-77 cars.
Color changes are usually a negative. Can you post the VIN and engine number/type for us?
PPI by someone thoroughly schooled in that vintage is absolutely mandatory. If you have my book be sure to read about the 1974-77 cars.
Color changes are usually a negative. Can you post the VIN and engine number/type for us?
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a 74-77 with a 2.7 . I hope they have documentation the the time certs were done to the case or stay away .. also as Pete says have someone check thoroughly.
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It largely hinges on the price, and your commitment to that era car. I personally like the look and handling of the lighter narrow body "mid year" cars. But... as said if the engine is still a 2.7 it will need work, and depending on whether it has had certs installed it could be a deal breaker. It will also need all the suspension bushings replaced, as well as soft brake and fuel lines. 40 years is the max for rubber - especially German rubber. While you're into that you'll be doing bearings, tie rods, ball joints....the list goes on.
When you're done you'll have a tight fun little car, as mine is, but including the $5k I paid for it 15 years ago, I'm currently at approx $17k, not including hundreds of hours of my own time, and I still have what most would consider a rough looking, but good running car.
On the other hand in most states, including mine, it is smog exempt, so I can put any combination of engine, intake, exhaust I want into it, and flash the peace sign every time I drive by the inspection lane...
-C
When you're done you'll have a tight fun little car, as mine is, but including the $5k I paid for it 15 years ago, I'm currently at approx $17k, not including hundreds of hours of my own time, and I still have what most would consider a rough looking, but good running car.
On the other hand in most states, including mine, it is smog exempt, so I can put any combination of engine, intake, exhaust I want into it, and flash the peace sign every time I drive by the inspection lane...
-C
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My biggest concern at this point is nature of the 2.7L engine.
Where will I locate the engine number on this vintage? I have heard rumors that it could be a 2.2L so I'd leed locations for both engines. Any telltales for the 2.2L to 2.7L?
At this point, I'm going to be uber catious. Having a 964 currently, I need a 1974 like a hole in the head, but the price has peaked my interest. Any/all help on the engine number location is appreciated. And once I have the number, where/how/who can deciphre it for me?
Peter
Where will I locate the engine number on this vintage? I have heard rumors that it could be a 2.2L so I'd leed locations for both engines. Any telltales for the 2.2L to 2.7L?
At this point, I'm going to be uber catious. Having a 964 currently, I need a 1974 like a hole in the head, but the price has peaked my interest. Any/all help on the engine number location is appreciated. And once I have the number, where/how/who can deciphre it for me?
Peter
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should be on the right side of the engine case when facing the rear where the fan housing meets the casing .. get in there with a flashlight
what colour is the shroud ? no gurantee but i think the 2.7 was green.
what colour is the shroud ? no gurantee but i think the 2.7 was green.
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VIN assistance?
I have the VIN #
9114100922
I have information on the 964 models, but not this far back. Can anyone provide some info from the VIN number?
Am (attempting to) attaching 2 pics of the engine bay. I see green, is this the right part? I'm expecting the engine number soon.
Peter
9114100922
I have information on the 964 models, but not this far back. Can anyone provide some info from the VIN number?
Am (attempting to) attaching 2 pics of the engine bay. I see green, is this the right part? I'm expecting the engine number soon.
Peter
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Thanks for the link.
VIN indicates a 911T Coupe from 1974
Just got the engine number:
6106920
Indicates a 911T from 1970(!!!!) which would make it a 2.2L and not the MY 1974 2.7L.
I'm thinking I'll bail. Too much change without documentation here.
But why the green shroud at the fan?
VIN indicates a 911T Coupe from 1974
Just got the engine number:
6106920
Indicates a 911T from 1970(!!!!) which would make it a 2.2L and not the MY 1974 2.7L.
I'm thinking I'll bail. Too much change without documentation here.
But why the green shroud at the fan?
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Someone may have cooked the 2.7 and gotten a 2.2 core to swap it out. The basic block, and therefore shroud, etc are pretty much interchangeable. Actually not a bad, if not underpowered idea. Either way parts for the Mag case engines are getting scarce - hence the popular transplant to 3.x. I'm not expert, but I don't think the T had many of the goodies the S did, such as front fender oil cooler, Bilstein struts, S brakes and so on.
This could be an opportunity to pick up a cheap "roller" and have some fun with a "rat rod" or Baja type of project. Maybe the owner will see that it's not a highly desirable car and come down in price. I see it as a $5k max car, depending on the value of some individual parts such as wheels and so on.
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This could be an opportunity to pick up a cheap "roller" and have some fun with a "rat rod" or Baja type of project. Maybe the owner will see that it's not a highly desirable car and come down in price. I see it as a $5k max car, depending on the value of some individual parts such as wheels and so on.
-C
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Thanks all. You have helped me to avoid a bad decision.
I went to see the car tonight. 2.2L badge across the top of the fan, engine number 610XXX, all signs are a 2.2L. No documentation, scary. Only thing that brought me to it was the drive in the 964, and his asking price. But when he didn't produce any jumper cables (draining battery....), I bailed and wished him luck.
Peter
I went to see the car tonight. 2.2L badge across the top of the fan, engine number 610XXX, all signs are a 2.2L. No documentation, scary. Only thing that brought me to it was the drive in the 964, and his asking price. But when he didn't produce any jumper cables (draining battery....), I bailed and wished him luck.
Peter
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When talking about these old gals, sometimes you're actually looking at a pile of parts and not really a car...
Speaking from experience, they can be big projects...
-C
Speaking from experience, they can be big projects...
-C