SARGEPUG

How can the avatar be misleading, it clearly shows my C2S! haha

SARGEPUG

Thanks Zed for the thoughts and prayers........car wise, that made me LOL on your correction!
C2S only has 6k on the clock, so no pad worries. Fluid wise, per the requirements, I'll need a brake flush and have my mechanic check the lugs during the required inpection. Another concern of mine, is the possibility of damaging the car. I'm not worried about myself, more worried about others. Car's sticker was $100k when I bought it and since then, pumped in an easy $5k for the PSE, Short Throw, clear bra, side decals, V1 in rear view and Air Intake.

zedcat

I hear you on potential damage. It is a potentially dangerous sport. I don't know Lime Rock so can't comment on it's relative dangers. On the plus side, as a first timer you'll have an instructor in the car and he or she will be focused on safety. They will want you to be able to drive home. Generally speeds will not be too high in a green group and you'll have PSM on to help. But there is a mental step to take to put a really nice car at risk and many of us go through it. I went through 4 DE weekends before my first agricultural excursion. I started carrying track insurance after that. It's not that cheap for a 50 to 60k value car but I needed the peace of mind. (I use Lockton). All that said, big accidents are relatively rare. Not sure if my comments help but for a first DE I would say the overall risk is pretty low.

Ed Hughes

Take the Targa, and you will learn much more, and have a greater feeling of accomplishment.

Best wishes to your daughter

911Dave

Not sure what you mean; his avatar shows a 997 Carrera S (as does mine).

NYNick

My bad on the Avatar comment...my eyes are toast!

FYI Sarge on the damage...it was one of the reasons I took a break from DE's. Running LR with $8,000 924's in the Green Group next to me as I take the downhill and track out onto the straight while driving a $150K TT kinda got to me after seeing some 'mistakes' out there. And you're right it's usually the other guy who makes the mistake, but you could be next to/behind him when it happens. I've seen a few of those at DE's...and at Lime Rock too. They bunch a $10,000 car into the wall, you bunch a $100,000 car into the wall....hmmmm.

Speeds get up there, even in the Green Group. I always found that if I was with a bunch of cars, and I was uncomfortable or wanted to spread my wings a little with them not around, I would Pit for a minute, let them get a head start, and then go back out. Even so...don't push too hard...it's your first time.

Thinking it back over, with your car values in mind, maybe I would take the TARGA?

Nick

Ed Hughes

Then there is the exact opposite. The ONLY problems I saw in several years of heavy DE'ing from 2002-2009 were the guys in the new TT's or other new hardware who really didn't have a clue. They could barrel down the straights, but some had no clue when they had to turn the steering wheel. Sometimes dangerous, and usually irritating for people in older cars that could drive. Thank goodness, that has I climbed the ladder in run groups, the goofballs fell by the wayside.

NYNick

Gee thanks Ed. Feels like a shot right across my bow.

Reiver

Take the car you are more comfortable with, or the one that challenges you the most...hopefully the same.
God bless your daughter.

Ed Hughes

No, just stating the facts. I spent many a day at tracks, and found the guys with the lower cost stuff, for the most part, came into the hobby with more care. The fact they maybe couldn't but more HP than they could handle, made them pretty conscientious and safe to run with.

Certainly, no statement or category is an absolute or true for everyone in such. And, make no mistake, this isn't a jealousy thing-I actually go against the wife's suggestions to buy a new Porsche.

NYNick

Very well.
Its Sarge's decision anyway.

Have fun Sarge! When's the date?
Maybe I'll have a black 911 Targa by then and join you! Or a 911 coupe. Or maybe even a 993!

Still shopping...

kboustani

i have done my share of des in my 1976 euro carrera 3.0.i started with a 2000 996 in 2003 and decided i wanted something more chalenging so i sold my 996 and bought my 76 carrera 3.
10 years later i now put my 76 carrera 3 back to stock due to everyone else have much faster cars and i am in group 4(advance)group.
take the carrera,you will have a more fun and faster day.drive the targa on weekend drives with the top off.

Dan V

I vote Targa because you'll be slower in it which is preferable for a beginner. i.e. its more fun to drive a slow car "fast". From what I remember from seeing ALMS race on TV, Lime Rock is a rather short and technical track where a high-top-speed car might not get to stretch its legs so to speak.

SARGEPUG

You mean my Carrera S? haha
You went all out w/ your Targa it seems, roll cage and all!?

SARGEPUG

Thanks Ed!