1970 T...Clone Variant
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I kind of like this, but I like stuff thats a bit different. I would not buy this particular one, but its got some things I do like. Longhood, Widebody etc.
Curious, what value would you guys put on something like this ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5912933...7632368550191/
Curious, what value would you guys put on something like this ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5912933...7632368550191/
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The exterior looks decent, however, an unusual paint color for a RS clone but so is mine...
What bothers me on this car is considering all the work and money that was invested in this conversion is that the undercarriage is very dirty and overall, the car just isn't well detailed at all. Lots of paint overspray here and there, too.
The jack point shown in the closeup looks a little wonky too. This era of Porsche rusts very easily but it does look pretty solid underneath elsewhere under all the grime. It's not very pretty in the trunk area, either.
I'd need to know more info before coming up with a fair value. Is the widebody conversion steel or fiberglass? I'd like to see pictures of the car before the conversion was done as well.
Based on the pics I'd guess a fair selling price would be maybe 15K if the body is solid and the mechanicals are good. If the car were nicely detailed inside, outside and underneath and had front flares to match the rear it would bring considerably more. At first glance, the car looks pretty nice; after studying the photos, ummm...not so much. What I see is a basis for a proper '73 style RSR backdate, after replacing/flaring the front fenders and doing a LOT of detail work and getting rid of the highback seats, etc.
(EDIT: I also didn't notice the non-flared front fenders...edited the above comments somewhat)
Just my humble opinion...YMMV.
What bothers me on this car is considering all the work and money that was invested in this conversion is that the undercarriage is very dirty and overall, the car just isn't well detailed at all. Lots of paint overspray here and there, too.
The jack point shown in the closeup looks a little wonky too. This era of Porsche rusts very easily but it does look pretty solid underneath elsewhere under all the grime. It's not very pretty in the trunk area, either.
I'd need to know more info before coming up with a fair value. Is the widebody conversion steel or fiberglass? I'd like to see pictures of the car before the conversion was done as well.
Based on the pics I'd guess a fair selling price would be maybe 15K if the body is solid and the mechanicals are good. If the car were nicely detailed inside, outside and underneath and had front flares to match the rear it would bring considerably more. At first glance, the car looks pretty nice; after studying the photos, ummm...not so much. What I see is a basis for a proper '73 style RSR backdate, after replacing/flaring the front fenders and doing a LOT of detail work and getting rid of the highback seats, etc.
(EDIT: I also didn't notice the non-flared front fenders...edited the above comments somewhat)
Just my humble opinion...YMMV.
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Nice and shiny, but some things just don't add up for me.
Like jackb911 said, underside looks dirty and uncared for. It reveals that the focus on this build was on the cosmetic aspects, and not very thorough beyond that.
The trunk lid doesn't line up correctly on the driver's side.
The passenger fender doesn't line up with the bumper, and there is a dent on top of the fender near the pillar. Looks like it needs rear torsion bar bushings as well.
Not a good example overall.
Like jackb911 said, underside looks dirty and uncared for. It reveals that the focus on this build was on the cosmetic aspects, and not very thorough beyond that.
The trunk lid doesn't line up correctly on the driver's side.
The passenger fender doesn't line up with the bumper, and there is a dent on top of the fender near the pillar. Looks like it needs rear torsion bar bushings as well.
Not a good example overall.
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Well, it isn't an RS clone, as it has big fenders at the back. But, no big fenders at the front, so not an RSR either. Kind of unbalanced, to my eye. I also would rather see an RSR tail on these wide body conversions, rather than a ducktail.
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Also didn't put much attention on the underside, but thats a pretty big thing now that I see why a 'dirty' underside could easily mean many things could be superficially spruced up. The abundance of overspray was something that did at least get me thinking it was more of a 'face-lift' job than anything thorough.
Nice job guys....I feel like my eyes are continuing to sharpen on these things.
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This car also caught my eye when it was advertised on Samba for 22.5K a few weeks ago. Looks like it's being flipped locally in SoCal. I also googled the VIN and found a thread on Pelican concerning a previous incarnation:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...ml#post5607456
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...ml#post5607456
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This car also caught my eye when it was advertised on Samba for 22.5K a few weeks ago. Looks like it's being flipped locally in SoCal. I also googled the VIN and found a thread on Pelican concerning a previous incarnation:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...ml#post5607456
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...ml#post5607456
Man......I feel very very sorry for the people who do not hang out here on Rennlist/Pelican and don't get educated on these machines.
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Hum....its all sounds like a bad dream now. The car looks virtually the same now as 2010 when he wanted $12k, you said a few weeks ago he wanted $22.5k......I see it now on ebay for BIT $32k.
Man......I feel very very sorry for the people who do not hang out here on Rennlist/Pelican and don't get educated on these machines.
Man......I feel very very sorry for the people who do not hang out here on Rennlist/Pelican and don't get educated on these machines.
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I think the ebay ad may be misleading with regards to ownership (or at least my definition of ownership). I contacted the guy selling it through Samba a few weeks ago and he was based in Santa Monica and selling it for 22.5K and told me he was not the owner who did all the work. That sale was marked as "sold". Then over xmas the ebay ad appears, from a guy selling it further south in Carlsbad. That ebay listing ended at 25.5K and was then relisted with a buy-it-now of 32K.